Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

That's if any of the punters choose to believe "Honest Dave's" promises.

As for the other eejit millibum, who can take him at face value?


Funny enough, the only one of the big three who can hold his head up is Cleggy, he makes no bones about where he stands on €uropa.

LOL dont be silly.

Cynic i thought youd have seen through Ozzies political budget.

The new pensions regulation was set up for obviously appeal to older voters, the type UKIP have nabbed from the Tories.

When the newness wears off they will be back with Nigel, you mark my words.

And Tories wont be offering referendum in 2017 as they wont be in power.

You also say........" labour has categorically refused even a thought of a referendum"....ends

well thats wrong they will have a referendum if conditions inside dont markedly get better after negotiations.

Both the Eds have mentioned this plus Danny Alexander and Tessa Jowel on SKY News.

sticky - if the tories are not in power, then of course there'll be no referendum, but that is why i think a slab of ukip's current tory (but not labour) supporters will revert to type

as to the budget, it would seem to have been very well received, and even labour think the complete shake-up of the pension system is a "good thing", albeit that the devil will be in the detail

however, i do concur with you that the most important aspect of voting intentions will be whether or not people see at least some improvement in their take-home pay, which eventually means in their standard of living
that is somewhat in the lap of the gods - plus of course a bit of political smoke and mirrors

em surely came out loud and clear and said uthat nless there is a marked shift of further powers to brussels, there will be NO referendum - i.e. labour will NOT give a referendum

for myself, i want to be able to make a considered choice (aka referendum), and confess to currently being a distinct waverer on the issue

i'ld now be rather pleased if this thread reverted to being far more widespread in its discussions instead of the monopoly of tiresome and incessant soapbox politics

Tories biggest threat is not UKIP but an interest rate rise later this year. And one in the spring.

Its nearer than you think.

In fact its the biggest turn off for anyone wanting to take power from the next election imo.

Oh come on, this don't want power cos it's all going to blow up thing is tripe.

Any of the politicians would sell their souls for a chance to be maximum leader.

interest rate rise this year? ...... i would have thought the odds are against it, and even if there is one, another will not follow before the election

Well have you thought what this recovery is built upon.........cheap money and a consumer recovery. A recovery built on sand. (just what got us in the mess in the first place)


Just look at exports, infarastructure spending and construction spending, way down on 2010.

Just a few quid per month will hurt these youngsters who have taken on thease cheap mortgage deals.

I wouldnt underestimate the consequences of rate rises on them and the economy.

Dont forget if we go from a .5% increase to 1% in a year thats a 100% increase in interest they will have to pay back. Think they can afford it or anywhere near like that??.

Cynic did your read Carneys last minutes???????????????????????????? i suggest you do.

God there really is some complete and utter idiots over on ADVFN only go over occasionally to have a look ..I often wonder why they don't invade these boards ?

The interest rate isn't going up anytime soon, regardless of what Carney thinks.


The banks are making huge profits from lending, 50% pa plus. Why ruin a good thing?

any chance we can now move on to other than uk political punch and judy?

Your right cynic shall we have a row instead ?

After the Budget, Labour are now beginning to be seen as really 'up against it' and there's going to be even worse to come too, IMHO.

Let's suppose Labour get to the point where they reject Ed Miliband and Ed Balls too. Who might the replacements be?

My popular replacement for Leader would be Tessa Jowell.

Would they dare to bring back Alistair Darling for Chancellor? I can't really think of anybody else.

I don't really think anything will happen until after the election is lost in 2015. Hmmm?

well at least that would be more fun jimmy :-)
duel with white handbags perhaps or would that be considered racist or picking on essex at best?

I'll slap you with a fish.

as long as it's a fresh cod piece, that will do nicely

The lesser spotted millibandus has problems of his own...



March 25th, 2014


Red on Ed: Mili Faces Labour Revolt





If Ed Miliband keeps his word on his promise to fire anyone who briefs against the party then a full scale shadow cabinet reshuffle is in store today.

Traitors to the revolution Jon Cruddas and Stella Creasy must be first in line for telling the New Statesman:

“The old model of politics where progress depended upon centralising the capacity to act – whether in the market or by top down state intervention – no longer works.”

The Telegraph meanwhile has received a hostile anonymous negative briefing from within the party stirring up talk of revolt:

“Several Labour MPs are this week planning to defy Mr Miliband’s orders by voting against the Coalition’s plans for a cap on welfare spending. Other party figures have demanded Mr Miliband do more to distance Labour from the public sector and appeal more to private sector workers.“


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