Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

That's the only thing the snake oil salesman will be remembered for,
Gay marriage, the only promise he didn't break..

Maybe he's a secret shirt lifter.....Whatever!

I would suggest some of those can read and think, read the following:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d24b4dcc-3b9f-11e6-8716-a4a71e8140b0.html?ftcamp=traffic/partner/brexit/dianomi/uk/auddev#axzz4CyCAqSGI

Merkel, Hollande, Tusk, Juncker: all holding consistent top line - NO single market access without Freedom of Movement.

Brexit: EU warns UK on freedom of movement
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There can be "no single market a la carte" for the UK, EU leaders have warned, after meeting in Brussels to discuss the UK vote to leave the bloc.
Jean-Claude Juncker, President of the European Commission, said anyone wanting access to the EU's internal market had to adhere to strict criteria "without exception".
There could be "no negotiation without notification", he said.

The German and French leaders and the Council President said the same.
Donald Tusk said there would be another meeting of EU leaders, excluding the UK, on 16 September in Bratislava.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel also reiterated that there would be no discussions until Article 50 was formally triggered by the UK government.

"We wish that that would happen as soon as possible," she said.

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It will be good to have Boris as a PM.

We need a fantasist to be in charge.

Perhaps, we can hope for Granny's boy, Manuel, Tanker, Dumbo and Max in the negotiation team or even the cabinet.

Winners everytime.

Anyone hazard a guess at whıch EU country gıves theır restless natives a referendum on membershıp. Or wıll that optıon be shut down at the outset by polıtburo?

Poor old Fred he's lost everything recently and now he's throwing insults at everyone else ,Fred we WON !!! get over it .

There's nothing unusual in the fact that the UK arn't in the meetings with
the rest of the 27 other countries, because WE are leaving, so its up to
them to discuss their business and options, and when the negotiation start
then thats when the UK's negotiators and the EU start talking.

And that includes the pre talk bluster that you'll get, especially from the
side with the most to lose, in this case the EU...

CD, France have elections next year, if the Front Nat win then they'l have
a referendum as soon as possible, The Dutch have a GE next year, if Geert
Wilders party win then they will have a referendum as soon as..

Germany to, but i'm not sure with them..

Fricking hell..The stock market is surging ahead, Exchange rate on its way back
up...Those twat 'remainer's' were still claiming at dinner time that the world
was falling in and that we're still doomed...

LYING PRICKS SPRING TO MIND!!

Dumbo,

Look at what you have "won"?

Check your prize.

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Fred you just can't stop throwing insults at people ,i know what we won you complete idiot, i voted for it . It shows what you know ,your Labour lot have fallen apart .

The SNP's attempt to be made the official opposition at Westminster has been rejected by the Speaker of the House of Commons.
The Scottish National Party had argued that its Commons leader enjoyed the support of more MPs than Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn.
There are currently 54 SNP MPs but only 40 of Labour's 229 MPs expressed support for Mr Corbyn on Tuesday.
Speaker John Bercow said he had sought expert advice.

FTSE just erased all of the losses suffered on the announcement of Brexit. Plus Sterling coming back.

fred, for all his garbage, is right to say that no one has won

nevertheless, i am certain the only way to concentrate the brains of the ruling plutocracy was to vote out ....... the result has assuredly done that, and whatever the published huff and puff, i am sure they will all be working extremely hard in the coming months to cobble together a deal that will save faces all round ....... inter alia, this will mean putting in hand some pretty radical reforms

if they do not, then it is very short odds indeed that the eu will accelerate down a path to self-destruction

Your opinion cynic not mine i think we won and Fred is just a rude fool.

Fred Gobshite Of The Year (recurring)

He has won it so many times, he keeps the trophy.

Sonny Jim,

I suggest you read back through your posts and the wording and language use in some of them and the pejorative remarks you make about all and sundry.

Unless, of course, you consider yourself as omniscient.
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I think Cameron will go down as a failure and has done more harm to this country than any recent PM in history by a cheap political stunt, which has backfired, rather than acting as a statesman and being able to rise above internecine party politics.

PS.

One of the problems with UK politics at the moment is that there is a famine or scarcity of statesmen who have views or perspective of the future integrating all parts and members of society.

Personalities like Boris and Nigel are rabble rousers. What they trade on is being able to rouse "primitive" and "instinctual" emotions.

Personally, I would like to be seen as a European rather than a little Englander.

But I will wait and watch.

If I am wrong, I will be happier.

The media and the politicians are pushing the 'verbal' hate crimes attacks as
if it didn't happen before the vote, I'm not denying there is some going on
but i don't believe there is anymore then usual, but its being blown out of
proportion because its all part of the brainwashing, in their hope of getting
another referendum they're starting to get the negatives into the publics
mind..

And don't think i'm being fanciful in my thoughts, after all they tried to use
every trick in the book to get a remain vote...