Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I can't find any viewing figures. You can bet everyone who likes UKIP watched it, so that would account for Farage 'winning' the debate. I thought the standard of debate was dire. Farage doesn't do debate, he tends to just make statements and Nick wasn't much better. They just traded figures and each ignored the other's comments.

There is going to be a return match. Hopefully they will have watched this one and seen how bad it was.

immigration prog - tonight
not surprisingly, it ended on a pro-immigration note, which was as expected
however, the middle bit was well balanced and of course far from clear cut
for myself, i am still strongly in favour of immigration being controlled on some sort of points system

i'm also for uk nationals being prepared to accept lower paid jobs - minimum wage! - as their immigrant and often over-qualified competition do, and then working their way up
unfortunately, far too may uk citizens get sniffy about such an idea

Haystack.

Yes, I cant find any figs either, which is very strange.



cynic.

Tell that to the thousand people plus (they closed the list at that point) who applied for approx 100 jobs at Morrisons when they opened a new supermarket a couple of years ago. (Hampshire) Perhaps it's different up your way.

the prog was centred on peterborough, so guess you didn't watch

Off to see a real nice bunch of Romanians tomorrow, who have a car cleaning pitch at the car park on my local Homebase, to get my car cleaned, leathered, liquid waxed and polished.

There are six of these guys and they also clean the windows inside and out, clean the car mats, gloss the tyres and just generally do a real belter of a job, and often too, with a free perfume sachet to hang from the interior mirror.

And the price? Just £5. I repeat, just £5!

I usually give them a tenner and say, "Just give me a couple of quid."

And I always get, "Are you sure?"

Manuel,

You do a fair bit of travelling.

If I was border control I would let you out, but not sure of I would let you back in.

8-)

GF,

I like that post.

Are Cameron and Osborne Communists?

The techniques used by the present torrid lot are reminiscent of the communist or totalitarian states.

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Hazey One.

When you pee you pants do you blame your mother or father?

Like this government they should take responsibility for their failures.

The tories have been in "power" if not in control for 4 years and failing more and more.

They should have accepted their responsibility.

They could have reviewed and changed the rules. They haven't. They are failing.

They reorganised the NHS and it is failing.

They are a disaster,

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Have look at UK Debt and compare it with 2008.

Tory party economics.

The list of Cameron's failures are endless!

Just Out....... Tories now in 3rd place.

electionista ‏@electionista
UK - YouGov #EP2014 poll:

LAB 28%
UKIP 26%
CON 24%
LDEM 11%

a couple of years back, our cycling trip took us into germany from france
i had foolishly forgotten my passport, but neither country was particularly keen to detain let alone retain me, so i passed from one to the other without hindrance :-)

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eu voting intentions
no daylight between all 3
in many ways, it amazes me that anyone would vote for ukip in european elections, as that party's main plank is to get out
surely something of an anomaly

If you don't vote for change, what do you think you will get, something different?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein

Unfortunately the wrong head!

Lines from the famous Lords cricket poem, written by Francis Thompson:

"For the field is full of shades as I near a shadowy coast,
And a ghostly batsman plays to the bowling of a ghost,
And I look through my tears on a soundless-clapping host
As the run stealers flicker to and fro"

An engineer pokes and pulls at a brick or two at Thompson's old unstable Ashton-under-Lyne house. But the house can't take it. Here's a clip of it falling down:



And the blue plaque mounted on the front of the building, which marked the fact it was once home to poet Francis Thompson who lived there between 1864 and 1885? Was it buried in the rubble too? Or was it rescued just in time?

Ah well. Just another of life's many mysteries, eh?

Or for Haze!

Has anyone ever resigned from their job and just walked out or refused to work their notice period, if so, is there anything your employer can do about it?

The employer can withold any pay outstanding. Sometimes staff try and take any holiday owing as part of their notice period, but this is not allowed. I had a guy working for me, who wanted to take a new job straight away. His normal notice period was a month. He had five weeks holiday accrued and said he was taking the holiday in lieu of notice. I just did not pay him his monthly pay nor some bonus money owing. He got a solicitor to write to me and I explained his obligations and never heard any more. After he went to his new company, we were sent a request for a reference. I think it was in the pipeline as he started the job so fast. I gave him the worst reference you can give legally. You do that by replying that you can confirm that the employee worked for you between two dates. That is generally taken as a damning reference.

So theoretically, I could submit my resigantion, state I'm leaving now and won't be working my notice period get up and just leave. The worst my employer could possibly do is not pay me anything thats owed.

I can immediately think, that if you don't want to work your notice and it's your idea, then he has no need to pay you.

You might also be deemed to have broken your Contract of Employment and thus may also lay yourself vulnerable and might not receive, say untaken current or any accrued future holiday entitlements either.

However, if it is his idea, that he doesn't want you to work your notice, then he will undoubtedly still pay you your notice pay and also all of your other entitlements too.

When someone 'just walks out' then there is usually a very good reason for it. Is this a case for constructive unfair dismissal? eg. Has a manager told you to do something that you just cannot morally stomach? Has he made 'illegal remarks' or 'illegal propositions' to you or otherwise 'treated you grossly unfairly'? For anything like this, then if it causes you to 'walk out without working your notice', then it might be a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

You must abide by your Contract of Employment. But if unfair deductions are made, then do be prepared to take legal action to secure your rights. This is usually done by bringing a case at an Industrial Tribunal. However, don't just walk out without working your notice without at least trying to do some negotiating on it. Your employer will not want employees with a bad taste in their mouth going on about it and upsetting other employees. And if you are under notice, then it is understandably hard to maintain much enthusiasm for the job. It might well be best if you went. It all depends. It might be best to try and manipulate the situation by trying to put the words in his mouth that it is his idea you leave immediately, rather than yours.

For unreasonablel/unfair stuff - Do Get Witnesses.
Take proper advice from CAB. See: http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/work_e/work_factsheets.htm

He could theoretically sue you, but I suspect that it is rare. There is a little known aspect to this. There is an unofficial blacklist that is operated by some staff agencies. I know that some large companies have problem employees put on this list. I owned a staff agency for a while and was offered access to the blacklist.

Shortie

Can you be more specific?