goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Shortie
- 28 Mar 2014 11:01
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Has anyone ever resigned from their job and just walked out or refused to work their notice period, if so, is there anything your employer can do about it?
Haystack
- 28 Mar 2014 11:06
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The employer can withold any pay outstanding. Sometimes staff try and take any holiday owing as part of their notice period, but this is not allowed. I had a guy working for me, who wanted to take a new job straight away. His normal notice period was a month. He had five weeks holiday accrued and said he was taking the holiday in lieu of notice. I just did not pay him his monthly pay nor some bonus money owing. He got a solicitor to write to me and I explained his obligations and never heard any more. After he went to his new company, we were sent a request for a reference. I think it was in the pipeline as he started the job so fast. I gave him the worst reference you can give legally. You do that by replying that you can confirm that the employee worked for you between two dates. That is generally taken as a damning reference.
Shortie
- 28 Mar 2014 11:14
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So theoretically, I could submit my resigantion, state I'm leaving now and won't be working my notice period get up and just leave. The worst my employer could possibly do is not pay me anything thats owed.
ExecLine
- 28 Mar 2014 11:17
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I can immediately think, that if you don't want to work your notice and it's your idea, then he has no need to pay you.
You might also be deemed to have broken your Contract of Employment and thus may also lay yourself vulnerable and might not receive, say untaken current or any accrued future holiday entitlements either.
However, if it is his idea, that he doesn't want you to work your notice, then he will undoubtedly still pay you your notice pay and also all of your other entitlements too.
When someone 'just walks out' then there is usually a very good reason for it. Is this a case for constructive unfair dismissal? eg. Has a manager told you to do something that you just cannot morally stomach? Has he made 'illegal remarks' or 'illegal propositions' to you or otherwise 'treated you grossly unfairly'? For anything like this, then if it causes you to 'walk out without working your notice', then it might be a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
You must abide by your Contract of Employment. But if unfair deductions are made, then do be prepared to take legal action to secure your rights. This is usually done by bringing a case at an Industrial Tribunal. However, don't just walk out without working your notice without at least trying to do some negotiating on it. Your employer will not want employees with a bad taste in their mouth going on about it and upsetting other employees. And if you are under notice, then it is understandably hard to maintain much enthusiasm for the job. It might well be best if you went. It all depends. It might be best to try and manipulate the situation by trying to put the words in his mouth that it is his idea you leave immediately, rather than yours.
For unreasonablel/unfair stuff - Do Get Witnesses.
Take proper advice from CAB. See:
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/work_e/work_factsheets.htm
Haystack
- 28 Mar 2014 11:18
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He could theoretically sue you, but I suspect that it is rare. There is a little known aspect to this. There is an unofficial blacklist that is operated by some staff agencies. I know that some large companies have problem employees put on this list. I owned a staff agency for a while and was offered access to the blacklist.
Shortie
- 28 Mar 2014 11:25
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I'm just fed of doing my job and have never liked my employer and feel like liberating myself instantly. Did it once years ago and have to say, it was the best feeling ever, that was along time ago and was wondering if I could pretty much still just do it... If being paid is my only real concern then its very tempting..
ExecLine
- 28 Mar 2014 11:28
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Haystack
- 28 Mar 2014 11:31
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Employment law is a pain. I am in favour of increased rights for women, but it often acts against them. My experience is very common. I employed a woman who was an expert on Oracle and consequently was highly paid. She worked for me for a couple of months and then announced she was pregnant. I had to pay her for her maternity leave and keep her job open. She only told me she was coming back to work a week before she restarted. She worked again for a short while and was pregnant again. The same process started again and she wanted to come back. I could not replace her except with a temp at a higher rate while she was missing.
I have friends who just don't employ young women at all in highly paid jobs.
Shortie
- 28 Mar 2014 11:35
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So after skimming through that I would suspect that I'd end up being sued for damages. One for dropping him in it and secondly as a warning so no one else got any ideas of doing the same...
MaxK
- 28 Mar 2014 11:48
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Go sick with "stress"
they'll soon want shot of you.
Fred1new
- 28 Mar 2014 11:50
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UK current account deficit near record high at £22.4bn
UK exports fell 0.4% in the final three months of 2013, the ONS said
The UK's current account deficit was larger than expected in the final quarter of last year, official figures have shown.
The deficit in the three months to December was £22.4bn, only marginally lower than the all-time high of £22.8bn recorded in the previous quarter.
Shortie
- 28 Mar 2014 11:58
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Thanks for the posts guys, funny thing is this company really needs me right now, more than in previous months anyway. I also know doing a runner right now timing wise would damage the company also...
Haystack
- 28 Mar 2014 13:25
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Commuters at Euston Station were surprised to see British Airways adverts encouraging them to fly to the Indian Ocean on the escalators today, days after it emerged the area is where missing Malaysia flight MH370 is likely to have crashed.
The depths of the ocean were shown on screens at the station, bearing the overlaid text: "Escape the commute and discover the Indian Ocean".
ahoj
- 28 Mar 2014 13:55
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while we have not found them we should assume they are alive.
Keep the fait up
ahoj
- 28 Mar 2014 14:01
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...
Haystack
- 28 Mar 2014 14:06
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No. Miracles NEVER happen.
A miracle is an event not ascribable to human power or the laws of nature and consequently attributed to a supernatural, especially divine, agency. Such an event may be attributed to a miracle worker, saint, or religious leader. A miracle is sometimes thought of as a perceptible interruption of the laws of nature.
Therefore, they never happen.
Haystack
- 28 Mar 2014 14:07
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More likely to find someone under mud in air pocket, but that would NOT be a miracle; just unlikely.