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NETeller - CASHING IN (NLR)     

HUSTLER - 17 Nov 2004 20:02

NETeller - NLR - 3.15
Thought i would start a new thread following on from
hawick - new issue looks very special - not to steal the thunder from
hawick but just to highlight the company name to those not already in to this
potential blockbuster.
Those of us who are following NETeller know the background and have been
active with postings,for newcomers i strongly sugest viewing the
( new issue looks very special posting )the content will speak for itself.

Brief overview of NETeller
The company handles online cash transactions across the globe
on 21st oct gained fsa approval to operate as a regulated e-money issuer
and will passport the regulated status to all 25 EU member states
it has over 1 million clients rising by 2000 number each day
1500 online merchants and processed over $1.5 billion in 2003
pre tax profit is estimated to be 29 million to dec 04 rising to
40 million next year
per currently 20 to dec 04 falling to 11.5 which is low for sector
brokers have been raising forcasts on a regular basis
share price has risen over 50% since launch earlier this year
new markets emerging constantly,asia has the potential for supergrowth
online casinos are creating enormous profits
given all this - cash generative - huge market - fsa approval
infastructure in place to handle growth, profits accrue to bottom line
the market force is behind it with good relative strength
all put together it is hard to argue against this has the potential
to be a blockbuster over the year ahead

regards HUSTLER







Dil - 11 Feb 2005 17:42 - 390 of 1341

It's just starting capa.

goldfinger - 12 Feb 2005 02:33 - 391 of 1341

Ill second that Dil.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 12 Feb 2005 03:37 - 392 of 1341

Lifted from advfn and tipped yesterday friday in the share weekly..........

Friday, February 11, 2005


NETeller is up by 46% since 21 January

Since I recommended shares in electronic wallet business, NETeller, at 397.5p in the 21 January issue of TSW the shares have rocketed to 581.5p. Such a sharp rise in a short period of time, coming on top of an earlier strong rise from the April 2004 flotation price of 200p, leaves the shares vulnerable to a reaction on profit-taking. But, even at the higher price, the shares look exciting for long term investors given the rate at which the business is growing and the opportunity to build a large business.

Subsequent to my recommendation of the shares I have been talking to the company to gain a better insight into the business model and the service provided by the company to its customers. In part what is happening is that the company is meeting a need not satisfactorily met by credit cards. In addition, it is able to grow profitably at a spectacular rate because it has the support of the online gaming businesses and enjoys virtually zero customer-acquisition costs. By contrast, the average cost to banks of acquiring a customer in the UK is around 200.


Here's how they do it
NETeller works as follows. Customers for online gaming sites are offered various payment options typically including NETeller. If they choose the NETeller option they have to go through a signing up process which can take around 18 minutes. The company is trying to reduce this time but cannot compromise on its capacity to know its customers and its ability to verify each transaction.

Once the forms are completed the customer needs to put money in his electronic wallet. There are various options, credit cards, BACS transfer and the like, but they all take 2-4 days to put money in the account. The alternative is to opt for Instacash. The e-wallet is loaded immediately with 500 in cash for an eight per cent charge. NETeller has the customers bank details and debits his account with the money. In practice, in 10 per cent of cases, there is insufficient money in the account. The company then terminates these customers effectively using the process as a filtering mechanism to secure the 90 per cent of new customers who do settle their debts. A high proportion of these customers continues to use the Instacash facility generating profits for NETeller.


NETeller makes money in three ways
The company has three ways to make money. There are the charges for Instacash, which generate around 40 per cent of profits. The company also makes a three per cent transaction charge, in line with credit card fees, when it transfers money to merchants. This accounts for around half of profits. A third source of profits is merchants who pay the Instacash charge for their customers in order to win their business. The merchants drive a harder bargain and pay 5.3 per cent for Instacash rather than eight per cent. In total the company makes around 11 cents of profit for each $1 in the system and is hugely profitable with pre tax and interest margins over 60 per cent.

Online gaming companies like NETeller because it pays them with indemnified money. A further advantage is that, unlike with credit cards, winnings can be paid by the merchants into the customers e-wallet where they can again be used for gaming. This creates a multiplier effect on money entering into the NETeller system. The company reckons the multiplier is 1.8 times in North America where the company presently does most of its business. In the UK and Europe the multiplier is higher.

The company has ambitions beyond the gaming market. For example e-wallets are ideal for cross-border peer transactions where both parties have ewallets. The recipient of the cash can then use a NETeller debit card to take out cash from a cash point machine or transfer funds from the e-wallet into a bank account.

Another exciting prospect relates to stock market transactions. These have much in common with betting (too much, some investors might think) and could lend themselves to the e-wallet approach. Trials are being conducted with some small Canadian stock brokers. Ultimately the company has aspirations to become an Internet bank.


International opportunity
An exciting area of potential for the company is international expansion. The barely tapped UK and European markets are around a third the size of the USA and growing fast from a small base. The Holy Grail of growth is Asia where there is a high propensity to gamble and a market 3-5 times the size of the US. Even the Japanese market alone equals the US. The company says there are difficulties with the banking infrastructure and investors should not expect too rapid progress.

Nevertheless NETeller has all the makings of a phenomenal growth story with the customer base growing at over 2000 a day in the fourth quarter even though traditionally the fastest growth comes in the first and third quarters. Already there are over 1.25m customers, or members, for a company that was only launched six years ago. In the last year close to $3bn in funds was transferred and the growth rate is arguably even accelerating.

When co-founder, Steve Lawrence, realised the potential of the business, two and a half years ago, he recruited a heavyweight chief executive, Gord Herman, formerly boss of GE Capital in Canada. Since then growth has been rocket-paced. NETeller may even have the potential to join such star companies as Ebay, Google, Yahoo and Amazon as one of the key heavyweights of Internet commerce.

cheers GF.

moneyplus - 12 Feb 2005 12:28 - 393 of 1341

This is such an exciting share !! I can hardly believe my luck in finding and actually following my instincts by buying. It could so easily have been a wish I'd bought story. thanks for the info GF. With all your picks doing so well when do you make your first million??

goldfinger - 13 Feb 2005 00:53 - 394 of 1341

Some more coverage here as well MP.............



mitzy - 12 Feb'05 - 14:30 - 260 of 261


Recieved my Feb edition of Scsw today and they mention they have visited the management of three Biotech companies this month and they will reveal more next month.I'm hoping its MMI's...because they covered them 3 years ago and then dropped coverage of them.
Neteller is the January tip of the month in their portfolio..

cheers GF

goldfinger - 13 Feb 2005 02:38 - 395 of 1341

From the Fleet Street Letter.......................

...."As evidence of the beauty of its business model just consider these facts: every $1 deposited with NETeller typically brings in $0.11 of revenue and this translates into $0.066 of profit. So for the first quarter of 2004 the company made an impressive daily profit of $92,500.

Its revenue is derived from it taking a cut from each movement of cash that takes place between the merchant and the customer and at present 63% of NETeller's earnings come from its merchant base.

Spectacular margins - and take a look at that growing cash mountain

It enjoys a spectacular gross margin of 69% and with limited additional costs expected during its predicted future growth, much of its new business will be dropping straight through to the bottom line. Profits are expected to hit $51m this year and grow to $67m for 2005.

One thing the company does not suffer from is an ability to generate cash. At the end of June NETeller was sitting on a cash pile of $122m compared with $31m the previous year.

Its rapid growth and cash generation is a result of it successfully growing both its base of customers - they presently stand at 1m and are predicted to double over the next 12 months - and its merchants that now number 1,500. "

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 13 Feb 2005 12:16 - 396 of 1341

And some more good news from the Times yesterday.........................

Neteller, which has developed an electronic wallet for online gambling, rose 21p to 602p on optimism ahead of US investor presentations.

cheers GF.




stuartth1309 - 13 Feb 2005 12:45 - 397 of 1341

A fellow NLR investors overview - very good!

"
Looking through my NETeller folder-I note how sentiment towards this stock has accelerated at an alarming rate recently. Please note my use of the word Alarming should be taken an Bullish! I have an IC note tentatively making NLR a buy at 2.30.
It ends with the following provisos;
BULL POINTS
Rapid growth
Cash-generative and cash-rich
Market leader
Acquisition target for banks

BEAR POINTS
Unpredictable and rapidly evolving market .

Then I see Canaccord Capital Equity Research 9 Sep 2004 stated-
---We are initiating coverage of NETeller with a BUY recommendation and a 437p
target price, which equates to 15 times our F05 EPS and an EV/S of 7.5. Risks
include uncertainty of future regulatory action in the US, revenue concentration from the Internet gaming sector, and improvements in competitive offerings..
NOTE-They have since upgraded in the January 31st 2005 note with a price target of 6.25 target.

Of course the decision by Party Poker, the worlds largest on-line poker operator to seek a UK listing has suddenly set the sector on fire. Estimates are now being upgraded almost daily with a Durlacher note of late January 2005 stating Our short term price target is thus raised to 700p and longer term to 1200p.
Note how sentiment towards this stock has accelerated at an alarming rate!

I became interested in NLR as late as 3 and then was almost bounced out when the founders offloaded all those shares at 2.80. However despite others concerns-I saw this as very bullish and got digging for more shares.
It was probably the announcement that Neteller had been awarded an e-banking licence- which will drive sales, reduce costs and thus lead to even greater profits progress. The e-banking licence will allow Neteller to advertise its services within the UK and, once the pass-porting to all 25 EU countries has been achieved, throughout Europe-that finally threw any doubts, if investors had any, that shares in Neteller were capable of moving substantial higher.

As an investor you have to avoid the daily static and focus, just focus upon the bigger picture. Little surprise then that before NLR burst through the 5 barrier, in January more than a few shrewd fund managers were increasing their weightings here. As reported on CityWire;
Framlington's AAA-rated Roger Whiteoak snapped up 50,000 shares for his Framlington UK Smaller Companies fund . He now holds 423,000 shares in this fund and a further 1.3 million in the Throgmorton investment trust .
His fellow AAA-rated manager Dan Nickols also holds 345,000 shares in the Old Mutual UK Select Smaller Companies unit trust having bought 65,000 shares two weeks ago. Rathbone's A-rated Carl Stick holds 250,000 in the Rathbone Special Situation fund but has not added any since early November.
I say you shouldn`t be surprised if these very same fund managers have been adding. I know I have!

Neteller has already signed up William Hill, Ladbrokes, Victor Chandler, Sportingbet, BetonSports and PartyPoker among its many clients, and now the prospect of non-gaming related revenues are fuelling fire to the imagination.
As Share Weekly pointed out- The company has ambitions beyond the gaming market. For example e-wallets are ideal for cross-border peer transactions where both parties have ewallets. The recipient of the cash can then use a NETeller debit card to take out cash from a cash point machine or transfer funds from the e-wallet into a bank account.
Another exciting prospect relates to stock market transactions. These have much in common with betting (too much, some investors might think) and could lend themselves to the e-wallet approach. Trials are being conducted with some small Canadian stock brokers. Ultimately the company has aspirations to become an Internet bank.
(Now with that last line Internet Bank, could Neteller have thrown a treble six?!)

The trading update last week did not contain details of any Asian expansion and commentators claimed that Netellers statement as Uninspiring. What utter Tosh!
In a pre-close trading update, the company said average daily sign-ups ofnew members grew 94 pct to 2,072 in the three months to Dec 31 2004, noting that growth in new member sign-ups has historically been strongest in the first and third quarters.

Well if that`s uninspiring, keep the lack of inspiration coming lads!

Like I say-as an investor you have to ignore hapless market static and focus-focus-focus. I intending riding all the way with this company-opportunities this good must be used to your every advantage!

As Share Weekly concluded- .When co-founder, Steve Lawrence, realised the potential of the business, two and a half years ago, he recruited a heavyweight chief executive, Gord Herman, formerly boss of GE Capital in Canada. Since then growth has been rocket-paced. NETeller may even have the potential to join such star companies as Ebay, Google, Yahoo and Amazon as one of the key heavyweights of Internet commerce..
"

Cheers,
Stuart

jimmy b - 13 Feb 2005 20:20 - 398 of 1341

Good post Stuart read with interest..700 by the end of Feb ??Jb

goldfinger - 13 Feb 2005 23:59 - 399 of 1341

Yes excelent post Stuart, was that from the ample board?.

cheers GF.

stuartth1309 - 14 Feb 2005 08:02 - 400 of 1341

Hi GF,

Yes, I've been caught :)

The Ample board has a been very busy on NLR stuff and is where I'm finding most of the additional information. Recently the number of informative posts has increased dramatically - probably in relation to the number of informed people holding!

Not sure exactly what to expect this week from NLR. Still very positive but surely this uptrend can't continue at this rate until company reports!?!?

Cheers,
Stuart

jimmy b - 14 Feb 2005 08:08 - 401 of 1341

What a great start,, the way this is going ,,700 by the end of the week..

stuartth1309 - 14 Feb 2005 08:50 - 402 of 1341

Amazing start!

Ignore my comments on whether the uptrend can continue.

Onwards ...

jimmy b - 14 Feb 2005 09:21 - 403 of 1341

Thats ok Stuart ,i keep thinking the same its got to slow at some point,, hope im wrong...Jb

foitek - 14 Feb 2005 09:37 - 404 of 1341

Won't this ever pull back to allow a chap to get in?

goldfinger - 14 Feb 2005 10:17 - 405 of 1341

Foitek its cheap now, youl be waiting for ever and will grow a 20ft beard LOL.

cheers GF. PS, dont forgeet management are about to do presentations for US investors.

EWRobson - 14 Feb 2005 11:29 - 406 of 1341

Just been catching up - quite happy to have my 10K CFD p[osition purring away in the background. Brilliant posts from goldfinger and stuart. They really fill in the reasons for the success story and why it will continue motoring. OK, competition will emerge as for Yahoo, google and Party Poker but there is such a thing as momentum and market leadership. Really is a longterm hold. For those not into CFDs, the big plus is that you can reinvest the suplus on the trade without closing it: I bought NLR on the margin from SEO and have just used the margin on NLR to buy BPRG and, hopefully, so it goes on!

Eric

bhunt1910 - 14 Feb 2005 11:36 - 407 of 1341

Eric - advice please - I noted your comments re CFD's a couple of weeks ago and have done some research on them and finally felt brave enough to open an accout with BSL.

However - they do not list them as a CFD that they trade.

Does one have to ask - or do only certain SB''s deal

Thanks in advance

Baza

mickeyskint - 14 Feb 2005 12:35 - 408 of 1341

EWR

Who do you use for your CFD'S? Been tempted but I did'nt think all brokers dealt CFD'S on the AIM market. If you decide to bank any profits using CFD'S how long does it take to hit your bank account? If I've asked anything too personel, sorry.

LOL

MS

goldfinger - 14 Feb 2005 12:43 - 409 of 1341

Eric which company do you use for CFDS on NLR please and other smaller companys?

cheers GF.
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