Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Yep true lads but can you name a BRITISH PM who as ever lied as much as David Cameron.............I cant think of one...........you guys are older than me (respect)but can you name a PM who as done more????.(alders..... Blair that was one occasion, not time and time again)

I wonder and wish to be informed as I never stop learing from you guys the World of day to day education.............and its very powerful.

The truth is I learn more in my local pub than I ever did in the Education System and Im supposed to be a Doctor (economics doctor)LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Blair lied on imigration and maybe of his dealings with Gaddafi , was he PM when they lied about US renition flights from the UK ?

Gordon Brown's lies

GB - I have always funded the Military with whatever they asked for LIES
GB - Military spending has increased every year LIES
GB - I have saved the world LIES
GB - Tony Blair is my friend and I respect him LIES
GB - Damian McBride's smears were nothing to do with me

Labour said they the wouldn't raise income tax, instead we have 111 new taxes (IIRC)

1) I thought Mrs Duffy was talking about foreign students
2) No more boom & bust
3) We will have a referendum about the EU

maria miller
all walks of life are full of dodgy characters, and parliament in all its hues is of course not immune

in this instance, my gripe is not so much that MM tried to work the system and patently overstepped what the rules allowed, but that the parliamentary committee then only tickled her with a derisory fine

that cameron should have suspended if not sacked her from the cabinet as soon as her "misdemeanour" became apparent is a separate issue, and is (imo) a no-brainer, but i do not intend to open up the silly paths of righteous indignation that are so prevalent here

Haze you are entitled to your own standards.

That is why some time ago I wrote that I was happy never to have done business with you.

If it is fraud, it is fraud.


I didn't think, because I though I was underpaid, that I could nick money out of till, or made a false claims, and explain the THIEVING away because it was practised by others.

I would also have expected to "prosecuted" or at the least reprimanded and punished in one way or another.


Having the leadership accept the corrupt standards that they have done and are continuing to do and not being punished for the misdemeanour's and holding high office encourages "society" to copy their actions and behaviour.

That leads to a "rot" percolating through a society.

What is commonplace for other countries or others does not mean it should be accepted in the UK.

I would like to see the "Murdoch - Hunt affair re-investigated."

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As far as a non-elected upper house is concerned, it is liable to become another
"old boys" club, similar to the present cabinet and is more likely to be open to "old friends" arrogant tolerance of corruption.

At least with a periodically elected upper house, the public can at least a chance of ridding themselves of "failing" individuals as when the public thinks fit.

Personally, I see some advantages for co-opting a certain number of "special advisers" to the upper house. (On an Experience or Knowledge bases and perhaps as representatives of professional, or other areas of the public.)

(Safe guards would have to be put in to regulate number and "power".)

A black box locator onboard a Chinese ship searching for the missing Malaysian Airlines plane has detected a signal from a location in the South Indian Ocean, according to reports.


Tthe Haixun 01 vessel reportedly picked up the "ping" at 25 degrees south latitude and 101 degrees east longitude.


It is yet to be determined whether the signal is related to the missing flight MH370 of the Malaysia Airlines, the report from China's official state media said.

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DD .... bet it'll be a pod of dolphins or similar ..... to find the black box so easily or at all would be in the realms of 100,000 to 1

Haze,

Post 39260

Hammond is seen by many to be repeating similar lies about the Military now and isn't being hauled up for doing so!

Can we believe Cameron and the Rebecca affair and the honesty of his relationship with Coulson and the back door entrants to No 10?

I take my pulse every day when I remember where I left it.

Fred : That is why some time ago I wrote that I was happy never to have done business with you.

Was that the email you should have sent to the Royal Mail share Issue department ?

Maria,

The Con party say it is time to move on again.

Leaving piles of ----- behind it.

No wonder Wavy Dave looks more like a beetroot everyday!

Our Minister for Mediocrity is going nowhere

It shouldn’t take 32 seconds to work out that being useless is no bar to a Cabinet post



It is not so much that Maria Miller is female and the product of comprehensive schooling, though these accomplishments evidently impress David Cameron, who suffers from the lack of both. What makes her so priceless is her mediocrity
Photo: Andrew Parsons / i-Images


By Matthew Norman

7:55PM BST 04 Apr 2014



Full story: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/conservative-mps-expenses/10744725/Our-Minister-for-Mediocrity-is-going-nowhere.html

They both have stolen Pickles's pork pie!

Get ready to quit the EU now, Davis tells the Tories as he tears into Cameron and predicts UKIP will triumph at Euro elections

Former Tory chairman David Davis urged Government to open talks with Brussels about Britain quitting the EU

Davis, who challenged Cameron for leadership in 2005, said PM has made a mess of winning back powers from the EU

He said quitting the EU would be a 'revolution' and would spur jobs

The senior politician could be positioning himself for another leadership bid should UKIP embarrass the Conservatives in next month's Euro elections


By Simon Walters

Published: 01:48, 6 April 2014 | Updated: 01:52, 6 April 2014



David Davis said quitting the EU would be a 'revolution' and would spur growth



The Tory revolt over Europe took a dramatic turn last night after senior Conservative David Davis called on the Government to open talks with Brussels on quitting the EU.


Former Tory chairman Mr Davis tore into David Cameron, accusing him of making a mess of his pledge to win back powers from the EU.


‘Scaremongers’ who said Britain would collapse if it decided to go it alone were talking nonsense, said Mr Davis. Quitting the EU would be like a ‘revolution’ and would boost UK jobs, wages, world power, arts and prestige, he added.


Significantly, his intervention comes days after two televised political debates in which anti-EU leader of UKIP, Nigel Farage, crushed pro-EU Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg.


And it will spark claims that Mr Davis is turning himself into a Tory version of Mr Farage, ready to exploit the leadership crisis Mr Cameron would face if UKIP makes big gains in next month’s Euro elections.


Mr Davis, who was beaten by Mr Cameron in the 2005 party leadership contest and who is a former Minister for Europe, writes in today’s Mail on Sunday: ‘Exit from Europe is not something to be afraid of. Some of the greatest growth spurts in history have occurred after revolutions: this would be a revolution of expectations and ambition.’


Britain should quit the EU or force Brussels to make massive concessions, he says.




More: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2597945/Get-ready-quit-EU-Davis-tells-Tories-tears-Cameron-predicts-UKIP-triumph-Euro-elections.html

I wonder will the Scots vote to escape the London Sleaze.

What many saw the results of Cameron con policies would be!

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2597806/Which-embezzled-cheated-taxpayer-More-embarrassment-Maria-Miller-hackers-insult-Minister-OWN-departments-Twitter-account.html

Did anyone notice, how when Maria Miller did her 32 second apology, she was joined by government front-benchers Sir George Young and Jeremy Hunt? They have their picture in the Daily Mail.

These two ran up a few steps from the front bench and sat down beside her in a show of support.

I guess the Tories felt this was an Anti-Tory 'thing' and that there was no case to answer for any wrong doing.

That's not how 80% of the rest of us feel about MM. She has claimed most of her mortgage payments from the tax-payer and has made around £1m on this Wimbledon property by claiming it was her second home, listing the smaller home in the Cotswolds as the primary one. And her parents lived in the Wimbledon home too!

I think this entire fiasco will certainly wreck the Tory's chances in the General Election. The sooner she goes, the sooner they improve their chances.

Cameron seemed to think (WRONGLY) that the expenses committee vote was from a group of independents including lay people. There were lay people on the committee but they were excluded from being able to vote. What a farce!