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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 06 Apr 2014 10:52 - 39277 of 81564

goldfinger - 06 Apr 2014 13:05 - 39278 of 81564

David Camorons lies exposed, sorry they only go up to beginning of Jan 2012, i think the author passed away the month after.........

David Cameron's Lies Exposed!
On this page I am going to try and accumulate all Cameron's lies (I know, I know it is a mammoth task and a dirty job - but someone's got to do it!) I just hope I don't run out of p space! You can't leave posts on this page like on the main blog page, however, if you wish me to include a particular lie, or think I may have missed one please email me on gracie.samuels@hushmail.com or just leave it in a post on the main page in the latest blog and I'll transfer it over here.
David Cameron's Tory led government is guilty of disinformation, he and his cronies are deliberately misleading the people of this country.

How can we trust and believe a single word that David Cameron utters any more?

Disinformation Defined - Deliberately misleading information announced publicly or leaked by a government in order to influence public opinion.

David Cameron's Lies Exposed!

In his address to the Tory party conference Wednesday 10th October 2012, Cameron claimed that his government had created over one million jobs in the private sector, this is a complete lie and a complete fabrication and misrepresentation of the truth.

Around 200,000 of that million are straight forward reclassification of people who work in further education and have simply been reclassified from public sector workers to private sector workers.
Hundreds of thousands more are part time workers; temporary workers; self employed; under employed.

Cameron, Osborne and Clegg have destroyed more then 500,000 public sector workers (police, nurses, midwives, teachers, teaching assistants, lolly pop ladies, caretakers, elderly care wardens, educational welfare officers, family liaison officers, social workers etc etc) and there is another half a million to follow, and on top of that Osborne has announced another £16bn in cuts, which will greatly impinge not only on the weakest, poorest, disabled and unemployed etc, it will heavily impinge of the staff employed in our vital services, which means disruption of services in YOUR schools - YOUR hospitals - YOUR elderly care - YOUR local public services and YOUR local economy.

Don't be taken in by Cameron and his lies and deliberate misleading and misrepresentation and do not be fooled, look at every thing he and this lying hideous government say and understand it for exactly what it is - Disinformation.

Disinformation Defined - Deliberately misleading information announced publicly or leaked by a government in order to influence public opinion.


David Cameron's Lies Exposed!


Wednesday 26th January 2012.

Cameron guilty of telling FOUR LIES in the space of 30 minutes in Prime Minister Question Time in the House of Commons.
Lie 1)....."there are more people in work now than at the last election"
TRUTH - at that time employment figures from the independent Office for National Statistics show that the number in work has fallen by 26,000 since May 2010.

Total employment for full-time, part-time and temporary workers in May-July 2010 was 29,145,000, but the number fell to 29,119,000 for September-November 2011.


Mr Cameron bluntly denied that the Government’s welfare reforms would slash benefits to disabled children. Answering a question from Labour MP Anne McGuire about cuts to disabled children's benefits, he told her she was:
Lie 2)....."just plain Wrong"
TRUTH - Anne McGuire is correct to state that some disabled children’s benefits are being reduced by over £1,300 a year For those who children who do not qualify for the highest rate DLA care component, their entitlement will fall by £26.75 per week. According to page 28 of the Department for Work and Pensions’ impact assessment on the introduction of the new universal credit says the rate paid to disabled children will fall from £53.84 to £26.75 a week.

Lie 3)......When asked by Ed Miliband why so many health care professionals were against the Health & Social Care [Bill] Cameron replied by quoting a doctor in Ed Miliband's constituency of Doncaster, using "Doncaster" GP Dr Greg Conner to defend his NHS reforms.
TRUTH - His comments were highly duplicitous as Cameron failed to mention that Dr Conner’s remarks were made when he was chairman of the Doncaster clinical commissioning group – a position he no longer holds, as he left in 2011.................


Cameron moves on to answer to a "planted question by Conservative MP Paul Maynard, Cameron said;
Lie 4)......“the real shame… that there are so many millions of children who live in households where nobody works and indeed that number doubled under the previous government”.

TRUTH - In fact, according to the Office for National Statistics, the number of children living in workless households fell by 372,000 between April-June 1997 and April-June 2010.


NHS




April 2010 - When in oppositionand shortly before the 2010 general election Cameron promised:

"no more top down reorganisation of the NHS"

TRUTH- This was a straight and blatant lie! The Tories' attempt to dismantle the NHS has been a long time in the planning.

Back in 2005 Andrew Lansley made a speech to the NHS Confederation spelling out Conservative priorities for the NHS. These included privatisation, a pro-competition regulator and the delegation of NHS budgets to GPs. The building blocks of the Health and Social Care Bill were there from the very first days of Cameron's leadership of the Tory party. He knew this, both he and Andrew Lansley had been planning the biggest reforms in the NHS in its 63 year old history.
What we now have is a health service which is a shambolic and incomprehensible mess, with the confusion heightened by the plethora of amendments which were thrown into the Health & Social Care Bill (now an Act) in a desperate attempt by the Tories to keep the Lib Dems on board. In fact Cameron and Lansley need not have worried, the Liberal Democrats voted with the government for the destruction and privatisation of the NHS. Now in late 2012 and before the Health & Social Care Act is fully implemented the NHS is showing serious fault lines of collapse.

September 2010 Cameron said:
Royal Colleges of General Practitioners, Physicians and Nursing “all supported” his health reforms. September, 2010.
TRUTH - All three oppose the reforms.
JUNE 2011 Cameron said:
“We will not endanger universal coverage — we will make sure it remains a National Health Service.”
TRUTH - The health service has already begun breaking up into local GP commissioning groups.
Cameron said:
Reforms were needed as there were 5,000-10,000 needless cancer deaths a year compared to other EU countries.
TRUTH - The NHS has helped achieve the biggest drop in cancer deaths among 10 leading countries.
March 2011 Cameron said:
“We are not reorganising the bureaucracy of the NHS, we are abolishing bureaucracy".
TRUTH - The NHS will be saddled with even MORE bureaucracy with hundreds of new bodies set up to replace sacked managers.


Before 2010 general election David Cameron promised 3,000 more midwives

TRUTH - Since the general election, nurses and midwives have been downbanded, working harder for less, and midwives in training have been reduced by 3% a year.

Conservative Manifesto 2010 - Cameron said;
“We will increase health spending every year.”
TRUTH - A Nuffield Trust study shows a “real terms reduction of at least 0.5% in NHS spending is expected over the next four years”.



Cameron Lying and using Disinformation on NHS



Cameron also said that waiting times for operations, out patient appointments have fallen, this is another lie where Cameron is deliberately misleading the public by deliberately misrepresenting the facts, it is the Tories using disinformation - again.

TRUTH - The Royal College of Surgeons (RCS) has condemned NHS trusts in England for changing the criteria for operations, leading to some patients being taken off operation waiting lists.

This is how Cameron is able to claim waiting times are falling when they are not.

Some trusts have "re-categorised" patients as no longer needing surgery.
Without consultation patients initially assessed as needing operations have subsequently been re-categorised as no longer in need of surgery - meaning they effectively vanish from waiting list statistics. This gives a completely false picture of "falling waiting lists".
Patients are being teargassed without another in person consultation and are then being sent letters and informed they have been removed from the waiting lists.
RCS president Prof Norman Williams says the practice is "outrageous" and "worrying".
Why would consultant surgeons put hundreds of people on waiting lists for operations they thought they didn't need?
The government have ordered NHS trust to promote patient rationing, if fewer patients are being referred for surgery then waiting lists will be kept artificially low, this is very worrying for the health of the nation.
Creeping rationing of NHS care in England is making patients suffer unnecessarily, doctors are warning.
People needing knee and hip replacements are having to wait longer in pain for operations, the British Medical Association says.
And relatively minor treatments - such as varicose vein removal - are being scrapped altogether, medics at the BMA's annual GP conference will say.
In reality waiting times in the NHS overall have risen by 34%
2007 Cameron said:
“We will save the maternity and A&E units at Chase Farm hospital, London.”
TRUTH - Health Secretary announced the units would be downgraded last November and will lose key services.
Winter Fuel Allowance

March 23 2010 - David Cameron in Leadership live TV broadcast said that he;
"would not cut Pensioners Winter Fuel Allowance".
“You know you are getting letters from the Labour Party that say the Conservatives would cut the winter fuel allowance, would cut the free bus travel …These statements by Labour are quite simply lies. I don’t use the word ‘lie’ very often, but I am using it today because they are lies.”

TRUTH - In 2011 pensioners aged 60 - 79 had their winter fuel payments cut by £50 and pensioners aged 80 plus had their winter fuel allowance cut by £100.


David Cameron's Debate Lies 2010





David Cameron EU Referendum Lies



2nd May 2010 on the Andrew Marr Show David Cameron said that:
"they [the Tories] were the first party to say that public spending would have to be reduced. We were the first to say that it was an unsustainable path"
TRUTH - No they were not in fact late into 2008 Cameron and Osborne were promising to match the then Labour Government's spending plans "pound for pound". It wasn't until Alistair Darling the then Labour chancellor started talking about "sustainable cuts" to halve the deficit over 4 years to protect the economy that Cameron and Osborne suddenly changed their minds.

May 2nd 2010; Cameron said that;
they were the first to talk about a public sector pay freze :
TRUTH - Labour's then chancellor Alistair Darling had already spoken about the necessity for a future public sector pay freeze in July 2008.

May 2010 - Three days before the election,Cameron said on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show


"any cabinet minister … who comes to me and says; 'Here are my plans' and they involve frontline reductions, they'll be sent straight back to their department to go away and think again".

TRUTH - £81bn in cuts have now rained down on frontline services and now we can expect another £16bn worth of cuts on top of those.

2010 just a month prior to the general election Cameron was asked if VAT would rise. Cameron said;


"Our plans involve cutting wasteful spending … our plans don't involve an increase in VAT."

TRUTH - In Osborne's first 'emergency' budget he raised VAT by 2.5% to a massive 20%, which has helped crush demand for goods and helped push the country into the worse and deepest double dip recession since the war.

March 2010 - Two months before the election, Cameron said on universal child benefit:
"I wouldn't change child benefit, I wouldn't means test it, I don't think that's a good idea."
TRUTH - Child benefit is to be means tested and those earning £44,000 per year will have their benefit stopped, while those couples claiming benefit can earn £80,000 between them and get to keep all their benefit.


2010 - In reply to Ed Balls accusation that the Tories would scrap Educational Maintenance Allowance (EMA) Cameron and Michael Gove said that they:
"will not scrap Educational Maintenance Allowance"

TRUTH - In Osborne's 2010 spending review it was announced that EMA would be scrapped.

2010 - Tax credits. Cameron promised
" to cut them only for families on £50,000"
TRUTH - the Tories 2011 budget book shows families with an income of just £30,000 will lose all credits.



DEFENCE

2010 - Cameron promised a


"bigger army for a safer Britain"
TRUTH - The army alone is now to lose at least 20,000 soldiers.

2010 - Prior to may general election David Cameron, vehement in his criticism of the then Labour government demanded more Chinook helicopters for operations in Afghanistan. Disgracefully Cameron and then shadow Defence Secretary Liam Fox would accuse the Labour government of being out of touch and imply that their actions were causing deaths of troops in Afghanisatan. They claimed that the lack of helicopters in Afghanistan was “scandalous” and accused the Labour government of a lack of “commitment and focus” on the issue.

TRUTH - From November 2006, the number of helicopter hours in Afghanistan rose by 137%, providing greater flexibility for commanders planning operations. In December 2009, as part of the new Future Rotary Wing Strategy, the Labour government announced the procurement of 22 new-build Chinook helicopters with the first 10 being delivered in 2012 and 2013, in time to add greater flexibility for operations in Afghanistan. Merlin helicopters were redeployed in Afghanistan and the fleet expanded by 25%. Improvements were made to Sea King helicopters to allow them to operate in Afghanistan, up-rated engines for the entire Lynx Mk8 fleet to enhance operations and greater availability of Chinooks for training to allow for more effective deployment.
Whilst there is a clear recognition that government can always do more to increase capabilities, the last Labour government should be rightly proud of its record.
Prior May 2010 - Cameron & Tory defence hypocrisy. Demanded more helicopters for operations in Afghanistan.
TRUTH - now in government the Tories have cut the order for Chinook helicopters by almost half, and as a result of the delay in placing the order they will be too late to have a real impact in Afghanistan, if the Prime Minister’s withdrawal timetable is to be adhered to. Having demanded more helicopters whilst in Opposition and having welcomed our decision to procure 22 new helicopters, the Tories have performed a huge volte face in government; a theme which is coming to define Cameron’s premiership. It is now emerging that according to things going to plan in Afghanistan "better than expected" troops may be brought home early. While this is desirable, I am minded to think this has more to do with this incompetent government's cock-up over the Chinook helicopter order than it does anything else!
Of course, the announcement of 14 new Chinook helicopters should be welcomed. However, we should also expose the stunning hypocrisy of the Tories on defence. They spent hours and hours in opposition hammering the government and talking very tough on defence. Now they’re in government, the Tories are proving, yet again, to be very weak indeed. It should also not go unnoticed that for all their fanfare of announcements the Tories are ordering LESS helicopters than the previous Labour government to be delivered at a LATER date!

Cameron and his various Defence Secretaries accused Labour of a;
"defence budget "black hole"
TRUTH - It was the Tories, who left the incoming Labour government in 1997 a smaller defence budget in real terms to the one it inherited in 1979 AND A £28billion black hole which they now like to pretend never happened.
LAW & ORDER


2010 Tory Manifesto When in opposition Cameron said;
"under my government anyone who is caught with a knife will face imprisonment"

TRUTH - In 2009, when Cameron promised that a Tory government would jail anyone found with a knife, 27% of those caught were sent to prison. After 2 years of Cameron's Tory led government that figure has now fallen to just 25%.



May 2010 - A few days before the general election, David Cameron famously promised that “Any Cabinet minister, if we win the election, who comes to me and says;
‘here are my plans and they involve front line reductions’ will be sent back to their department to go away and think again.”
TRUTH - The official figures show that police numbers in the 43 forces in England and Wales have fallen by 9,625 since the general election and are more than on track to meet reliable estimates that the current round of public spending cuts will lead to a loss of at least 15,000 officers by 2015 and will probably be nearer 16,000 fewer police.
The report, based on detailed investigation of individual forces’ plans, estimates that 16,200 police officers will be cut between 2010 and 2015.

This entirely undoes Labour’s investment between 2000 and 2010 when CRIME FELL by 43%. This government are taking police numbers back to 1997 levels, (the numbers that Tories had previously reduced them to, and when crime had more than doubled under the Tory government).


ECONOMY

2009/2010 Cameron Accused Labour Government of profligacy

TRUTH - The last budget before the financial crisis in 2007 put the structural deficit at just 3% (or 1% if borrowing to invest is stripped out). Most of the debt we have today came from dealing with the crisis, propping up the banks and the economy as tax revenue slumped.

The Tories weren't denouncing this as reckless at the time, as they can do so easily now. Quite the opposite. They promised to match Labour's spending pound for pound until late 2008. If Labour are guilty of failing to save for a rainy day then the Tories are guilty of supporting them.

May 2010; Cameron and Osborne accuse Labour of leaving economic mess.

TRUTH - Labour handed the economy over to the Tories in *RECOVERY* and in strengthening growth (it isn't now, thanks to Cameron, Osborne and Alexander's mishandling of the economy we are in the deepest longest double dip recession since WW11).

Cameron and Osborne said that the IMF back their plans

TRUTH - The IMF expects the UK economy to shrink by 0.4pc this year, instead of grow by 0.2pc as it expected in July.


2011 House of Commons PMQs when challenged about the mess of the economy by Ed Miliband, David Cameron said of the economy;
"we are over the worse"
TRUTH - (2012) We're now in the longest slump in more than a century.



Clean Up Politics


Cameron promised to clean up politics

TRUTH - Despite the rhetoric, David Cameron’s promise to clean up the political system is not backed up with meaningful action.
Although both the other main parties have signed up to a statutory register of lobbyists, the Conservatives remain committed to self regulation.
In fact since the election (and before) The Conservative party has been embroiled in several serious financial scandals, which has rendered riddled with sleaze in just 2.5 years.

Peter Cruddas Tory Party Treasurer - Cash For Access Was asking £250,000 for people to meet the Prime Minister, David Cameron.

Grant Shapps Current Co-Conservative Party Chairman and Minister Without Portfolio (also see above) Grant Shapps called the deepest double dip recession caused by the Conservative chancellor an "amusement ride" only he said it under one of his alias names as Michael Green and most likely Sebastian Fox too.

Baroness Warsi Conservative party Co Chairman was investigated last May over financial irregularities and failing to declare income on property she had rented out. Cameron made a big play of having her investigated by Sir Jeremy Heywood (so he could take the heat of himself and the then Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt) She was subsequently cleared (ha ha no surprises there then) but her days were numbered and she was thrown out in the PMs next cabinet reshuffle.

Michael Fallon Former Conservative Party Deputy Chairman September 2010 – 4 September 2012 Dragged into the Barclays Libor fixing scandal. Fallon "acknowledged that he worked for Libor Brokers Tullett Prebo and was fully conversant with the sector. But he failed to point out that, for the last year, his son Peter Fallon has been employed as an Investment Banker with Barclays. Fallon was keen to admit that he was a client of Barclay's, but not so keen to admit that his was employed there. During the expenses scandal, Mr Fallon wrongly claimed £8,300 for the mortgage repayments on his second home.

Lord Ashcroft Former deputy Chairman Conservative party: Deprived the British Treasury of over £127 million in a 10 year tax dodge. The current Foreign Secretary, William Hague was said to have known about Ashcroft non dom status after Ashcroft had accepted his Peerage. Ashcroft is one of the biggest donors to the Conservative party and has donated millions of pounds over the years. Ashcroft's millions were poured into the Tory party key marginals in the 2010 general election. Intense pressure from the Tory government in 2010 forced the BBC to drop its Panorama programme about Ashcroft which concentrated on his business affairs and money stashed away in off-shore tax havens.

Andrew Mitchell Conservative Chief Whip allegedly called police protection officers "fucking plebs" and screamed at them in the street to "know their fucking place" He has been urged to resign by police for his foul outburst in Downing Street but has refused to do so and receives the full backing of David Cameron. Police believe that this means that David Cameron is inferring that the police officers concerned are lying in their reports.


Cameron misleads parliament and public again over Liam Fox former Defence Secretary

Cameron brings back David laws into government after Laws was forced to resign over his fraudulently claiming over £50,000 for housing expenses after just six weeks in government in June 2010.

Cameron's Tory donors and fatcat bosses behind the "49 percenters"

Another list of Cameron's Tory Donors who exploit loopholes

Tory Donorgate - John Nash - Care UK - NHS - Sovereign capital - Hedge Funds

Tory "Donorgate" A Comprehensive List!

Keep returning I will add more and keep it updated as new Tory scandals unfold. Don't forget if you know of any Tory scandals please send them to gracie.samuels@hushmail.com



goldfinger - 06 Apr 2014 13:19 - 39279 of 81564

The truth about the Tory Party’s cover up of its links to paedophilia
05
Saturday
Apr 2014
Posted by Tom Pride in cynicism



According to the Daily Mail, Labour should apologise for its supposed links in the 1970s to the Paedophile Information Exchange.

Not a squeak from the Mail or any of the other right-wing press about the Tory Party’s links to paedophiles though.

And I’m not just talking about Savile’s frequent social visits to Thatcher at Number 10 when she was Prime Minister.

It’s been revealed recently that Savile was not a lone abuser. He was part of a paedophile ring based in the Scarborough and Whitby area. One of the leading members of the ring has been revealed by a local newspaper to be a senior local Conservative politician, Mayor and Councillor Peter Jaconnelli.

But don’t expect to read much about that in the mainstream media. Because the cover up of Tory Party connections to paedophilia in general has been going on for decades.

In 1983, when Lord Carrington became Secretary General of NATO, there was considerable disquiet in the US about a paedophile scandal involving Carrington’s close associates - which the Americans were worried could bring the organisation into disrepute.

But we didn’t hear much about that in the mainstream media either.

Also way back in the 80s, Tory MP Geoffrey Dickens gave Home Secretary Leon Brittan a dossier that included evidence of senior Tory Party members’ – as well as other powerful establishment figures – involvement in a paedophile ring.

Brittan however apparently ‘lost’ the dossier.

Something which was also not widely reported.

heath savile

And Edwina Currie stated in her autobiography that Peter Morrison – deputy chairman of the Conservative Party from 1986 – was ’well known’ for regularly having sex with 16 year-old-boys. But despite his crimes being well-known by senior members of the Tory Party, Morrison was only ever cautioned once by the police and never faced charges.

Or in other words, the scandal was hushed up.

Even the present Foreign Secretary, William Hague was accused of stifling an investigation in the 90s into the infamous North Wales child abuse scandal.

hague savile

And Lord McAlpine’s cousin, James ‘Jimmie’ McAlpine – who was almost certainly the man who abused children in North Wales children’s homes - was a major Tory Party donor through his building firm Alfred McAlpine Ltd.

But recently, we’ve learnt of even more links between Savile and the Tory Party.

Savile – who was bizarrely put in charge of Broadmoor hospital by the Thatcher government after a series of strikes there by staff – had his lifelong friend Alan Franey made Chief Executive of the hospital. Franey resigned in 1997 after allegations that a child pornography ring was operating at Broadmoor.

Franey has always had close connections with the Conservative Party and is now a Tory Councillor in Buckinghamshire.

And Labour MP Tom Watson has also said publicly that the Conservatives tried to cover up the case of paedophile diplomat Sir Peter Hayman.

But the cover up is still going on today.

We’ve been waiting for the best part of 2 years for the ‘imminent’ arrest of a ‘former senior Tory cabinet minister’ in connection with paedophilia allegations. Judging by past form – we might be waiting for a long, long time.

So don’t go holding your breath now.

Fred1new - 06 Apr 2014 14:13 - 39280 of 81564

UMMMMH

As I wrote earlier I think the next General Election will be the dirtiest election in current memory. (That was before the introduction of Bingo Crosby.)

I hope the Labour party are preparing posters point out the lies of the present administration and manipulation of data and failure of many of their ideological policies leading to destruction of social cohesion.

I would prefer it based on the contents Post 39280 and similar distortions of facts by the Nastiest government I can remember.

However, when Labour are elected I hope that they will hold an enquiry into the corruption and misuse of power under previous governments and the use of position to suppress information of criminal activity. (It seems that MM was attempting to do this, and appears to some that Cameron is condoning her actions.)

(Also, into the misuse of UK and EU expenses for political propaganda, as has be intimated that Fauxpage and other leading politicians are doing.)


Also, into ongoing abuse of expenses, corrupt attaining of contracts or financial support to business by future donors to the Nasty Party's coffers. The recent Royal Mail flog off has a very peculiar stench to it.

Also, think there should be a full independent enquiry into the allegations in P39281.

=======

Sometimes, I think for politicians, "climbing the greasy pole" means clinging to the shittiest pole as is being exemplified by Wavy Dave the beetroot more and more.

Having written that, isn't IDS becoming more and more an embarrassment.

goldfinger - 06 Apr 2014 14:18 - 39281 of 81564

"Nastiest government I can remember"........ends


Ill second that.

Haystack - 06 Apr 2014 14:30 - 39282 of 81564

Why today is so important

Today is an important day for Britain.

As of today, the Conservatives are cutting the jobs tax so over a million businesses will pay up to £2,000 less tax, including 400,000 small businesses that will pay no jobs tax at all.

That means businesses will have extra money to create jobs – so more hardworking people will get the financial security a pay packet brings.

That’s not all. Today we’re also cutting income tax for over 25 million people, saving the typical taxpayer £705 and taking over three million working people out of income tax altogether.

You will keep more of the money you earn and hardworking families will be more financially secure.

Today’s tax cuts are only possible because of our long-term economic plan – a plan with hardworking people at its heart.

Labour have no plan – and would wreck the economy with more spending, more borrowing and more taxes.

That’s why it’s vital that we carry on working through our plan to build a stronger economy and secure a better future for Britain.

Haystack - 06 Apr 2014 14:31 - 39283 of 81564

The biggest business and personal tax cuts for a generation

This week sees the biggest business and personal tax cuts for a generation. The vital changes we’re introducing – paid for by cutting spending - will create more jobs and give more people the security of a pay packet each month.

We’re backing businesses by cutting their taxes so they can create more jobs:

The ‘jobs tax’ (Employer National Insurance Contributions) is being cut by up to £2,000 - benefiting over 1.25 million employers, over 90 per cent of which are small businesses
Corporation tax is being cut to the lowest rate in the G7
We’re helping the high street with a £1,000 discount on business rates for retail properties
Tax on business investment is being virtually abolished for most businesses

We’re cutting income tax and freezing fuel duty to help hardworking people be more financially secure:

By increasing the amount you can earn before you start paying tax, we’re cutting income tax for 25 million people, with 2.7 million now taken out of income tax altogether
We’ve cancelled Labour’s planned rises in fuel duty – saving the average driver £7 every time you fill up

At the same time, our welfare changes are getting people off welfare and back into work.

Our long-term economic plan is building a more resilient economy for the future, and a more financially secure future for hardworking people and their families.

Haystack - 06 Apr 2014 14:32 - 39284 of 81564

BUDGET 2014: Giving security to Britain’s hardworking families

The 2014 Budget continues our long-term economic plan to give financial security to Britain’s hardworking families.

The Budget helps people who work hard and do the right thing by:

Cutting income tax for over 25 million people – so low- and middle-earners have more money in their pocket and more security
Giving pensioners more freedom and flexibility over their pensions – so they can enjoy peace of mind and security in retirement
Cutting taxes on savings to support people who do the right thing - and help them provide for their family’s future
Supporting manufacturing and backing business by cutting energy bills and increasing investment
Cutting the bingo tax and taking a penny off the price of a pint – to protect communities and local jobs
Building more homes and extending the Help to Buy scheme – to help hardworking people achieve their dream of buying their own home

The 2014 budget has hardworking people at its heart – and continues our long-term economic plan to build a stronger, more competitive economy.

The biggest risk to the economy is Labour’s demands for more borrowing, more spending and more taxes – for which hardworking people would pay.

Only the Conservatives have a long-term economic plan for a stronger economy and a better future.

goldfinger - 06 Apr 2014 15:26 - 39285 of 81564

Hays the electorate dont agree................

electionista ‏@electionista
UK - YouGov/Sun poll:

CON 32%
LAB 38%
LDEM 10%
UKIP 13%

Haystack - 06 Apr 2014 15:40 - 39286 of 81564

Helping families with the cost of childcare

The Conservatives are helping mums and dads with the cost of childcare – so families feel more financially secure.

We’re increasing our tax-free childcare scheme from £1,200 to up to £2,000 a year per child.

We’re also extending the scheme from under-7s to all children under 12.

So from next September, almost two million working parents will qualify for tax-free childcare.

The difficult decisions we’ve taken as part of our long-term economic plan mean we can help families where both parents, or a single parent, work – so they enjoy a more financially secure future and the peace of mind that their children are being cared for.

Haystack - 06 Apr 2014 15:41 - 39287 of 81564

Update - Labour lead at 5
by YouGov in Politics
Sun April 6, 2014 6 a.m. BST

Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 4th April - Con 34%, Lab 39%, LD 9%, UKIP 12%;

goldfinger - 06 Apr 2014 15:41 - 39288 of 81564

And lets just remember on this day who was responsible for the 2007-2012 crisis.

In the UK, Big Bang became one of the cornerstones of the Thatcher government's reform programme.

Although the "Big Bang" eased stock market transactions there is a debate in the UK about how far it affected the 2007–2012 global financial crisis. In 2010, Nigel Lawson, Thatcher's Chancellor at the time, appeared on the Analysis program to discuss banking reform, explaining that the 2007–2012 global financial crisis was an unintended consequence of the "Big Bang". He said that UK investment banks, previously very cautious with what was their own money, had merged with high street banks putting depositors' savings at risk and ...according to the program leading US banks to follow suit...........................ends

So their you have it in the words of the Tory Chancelor Nigel Lawson the economic crisis was a side effect of Tory Thatcher policy in deregulating banks.

Couldnt be clearer than that.

Haystack - 06 Apr 2014 15:57 - 39289 of 81564

It’s official: Labour won’t give you a referendum on Europe

Ed Miliband has made his position crystal clear – there will be no referendum on Europe under Labour.

Our relationship with Europe isn’t working and needs to change.

Unlike Labour, the Conservatives have a plan to negotiate a better deal for Britain in Europe then let the British people decide in an in-out referendum by the end of 2017.

Only the Conservatives will guarantee and deliver that referendum. Labour and the Lib Dems won’t and UKIP can’t.

Haystack - 06 Apr 2014 15:58 - 39290 of 81564

goldfinger - 06 Apr 2014 17:09 - 39291 of 81564

LOL no they wont because they wont be elected in 2015.

Hays are you meaning in about 50 years time?????????????

Haystack - 06 Apr 2014 17:41 - 39292 of 81564

How do you spend the same pot of money ten times?

Today Labour announced a new policy that’s paid for by a tax on bankers. But this is the TENTH time they’ve pledged to use a tax on banks and bankers to pay for an election promise.

That means Labour are either spending the same pot of money ten times over or admitting to breaking nine previous promises to spend the money elsewhere.

Either way, it’s more proof that Labour have no credibility on the economy.

Before today’s announcement, Labour had already spent a banks tax on:

1) Reversing the VAT increase – £13.5 billion

2) Increasing capital spending – £5.8 billion

3) Reversing Child Benefit savings – £3.1 billion

4) Reversing Tax Credit savings – £5.8 billion

5) Increasing the Regional Growth Fund – £200 million

6) Cutting the deficit – billions

7) Turning empty shops into community centres – £5 million

8) Spending on public services – billions

9) Building more housing – £1.2 billion

Labour’s sums don’t add up.

The only way they could pay for all these promises would be to borrow more and tax more – which would wreck the recovery and make hardworking families less financially secure.

Only the Conservatives have a long-term plan to secure a stronger economy and a better future.

Labour would ruin the progress we’ve made as a country together. They wrecked the economy once – don’t let them do it agai

Fred1new - 06 Apr 2014 17:56 - 39293 of 81564

Hazy one,

Are you a member of a hard working family or just breeding stock, or perhaps more likely a . lazy idle . .

Leaving the EU, is a pipe dream and many of those promulgating tory con artist rubbish in hope of withdrawing from the organisation are possibly more interested in hiding ill-gotten gains, on which they have avoided tax away from inspection.

Others, spouting the chants of “little Englanders” are just hoping to divest themselves of Cameron and his maladministration before the next election, which they realise he has not got a cat in hells chance of winning.

The nasty party is becoming laughing stock and can’t even run itself let alone the country.

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Fred1new - 06 Apr 2014 17:56 - 39294 of 81564

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dreamcatcher - 06 Apr 2014 18:12 - 39295 of 81564

Cash Isas - I see the cash allowance is £5940. My question is from July 1 it will be £15,000, so can the initial £5940 be topped up to £15,000 on the 1 July or do you wait till july 1 to purchase a £15,000 isa. Do not want to open one at present and not be able to top it up. Any ideas ?


dreamcatcher - 06 Apr 2014 18:17 - 39296 of 81564

Found the answer - The ISA will become a NISA from 1 July with a higher allowance of £15,000 – when all can be put into cash. But don’t let that put you off opening an ISA now. You can use this year’s allowance of £5,940 and then top it up to £15,000 come July.
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