goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 09 Apr 2014 21:32
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hays - bloody good job but she should be paying out an awful lot more ..... she has brought disgrace not only to her party colleagues but to the whole of parliament
ptholden
- 09 Apr 2014 21:57
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As my previous correspondence to the PMs office clearly had the desired result, I may consider a further missive suggesting Maria Miller should face investigation and potential prosecution.
I think any chance The Tory's had of re-election has all but disappeared, unless they ditch Cameron.
Haystack
- 09 Apr 2014 22:07
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Difficult to prosecute Miller as she was cleared of fraud
Following a complaint by the Labour MP John Mann, the parliamentary commissioner for standards starting investigating the case in 2013.
In her report, Kathryn Hudson cleared the MP of making false expenses claims
The commissioner has no powers and just makes reccomendations.
The discrepancy sprung from the difference between the size of Mrs Miller's mortgage, which was £525,000 when she entered the Commons in 2005, and the £237,500 purchase price of the five-bedroom property.
The commissioner believed she should only have been able to claim expenses for interest payments on the original 1996 mortgage of £215,000 and additional claims were outside the rules.
The committee disagreed and said the claims should extend to additions to the mortgage. However, it also said Mrs Miller should apologise to the House of Commons because her "attitude" to the commissioner's inquiry had breached the parliamentary code of conduct.
Haystack
- 09 Apr 2014 22:08
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She was milking the systems, but it is not fraud.
Fred1new
- 09 Apr 2014 22:22
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Hazy one.
You are living up to your name.
Who has cleared her of fraud?
goldfinger
- 09 Apr 2014 22:22
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Milking the system is not fraud???????, come off it if she knew she was milking the system by claiming too much in mortgage payments when she should have claimed less....that is fraud and she had hoped she wouldnt get found out on it.
Shes a crook. She should go before the law.
Ignorance is no defence when someone claims too much in benefits. Why should it be with MPs expenses.
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2014 00:01
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Well lets say its only labour MPs who have been CAUGHT fiddling expenses.
Instead of party point scoring I would have thought you would have had a look at the answer I gave to you on your query from this morning.!!
Perhaphs if we get the result from the petition it will be 6-1 in favour of labour.
But lets not forget Miller and Camoron are both guilty of stoking up this entire controversy AGAIN and at a time when MPs Street Cred is at an all time low.
Little wonder their is much increasing apathy among the electorate when it comes to voting day as the poster Cynic as pointed out time and time again, and he is right to do so.
Labour it would appear have learnt their lesson, Im afraid the same cant be said about the Tory party after this pathetic ongoing episode.
MaxK
- 10 Apr 2014 08:13
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MaxK
- 10 Apr 2014 08:29
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aldwickk
- 10 Apr 2014 08:31
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Hundreds of millions of pounds may have been wasted on a drug for flu that works no better than paracetamol, a landmark analysis has said.
The UK has spent £473m on Tamiflu, which is stockpiled by governments globally to prepare for flu pandemics,
The Cochrane Collaboration claimed the drug did not prevent the spread of flu or reduce dangerous complications, and only slightly helped symptoms.
The manufacturers Roche and other experts say the analysis is flawed.
The antiviral drug Tamiflu was stockpiled from 2006 in the UK when some agencies were predicting that a pandemic of bird flu could kill up to 750,000 people in Britain. Similar decisions were made in other countries.
Hidden data
The drug was widely prescribed during the swine flu outbreak in 2009.
Drug companies do not publish all their research data. This report is the result of a colossal fight for the previously hidden data into the effectiveness and side-effects of Tamiflu.
It concluded that the drug reduced the persistence of flu symptoms from seven days to 6.3 days in adults and to 5.8 days in children. But the report's authors said drugs such as paracetamol could have a similar impact.
On claims that the drug prevented complications such as pneumonia developing, Cochrane suggested the trials were so poor there was "no visible effect".
aldwickk
- 10 Apr 2014 08:52
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Goldie'
Here it is , 1.30 hours drive from Manila airport in Marikina city
Fred1new
- 10 Apr 2014 09:07
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Exec,
"ONLY Labour MPs commit expense fraud."
I would recall this and and consider.
"Expenses claims[edit]
Main article: United Kingdom Parliamentary expenses scandal
In May 2009 Jenkin was reported by the Daily Telegraph to have used £50,000 in expenses in order to pay his sister-in-law rent on the property he uses as his constituency home. Jenkin claimed that he was just paying "an honest and reasonable rent" for the property.[3]
On 27 October 2009 it was initially recommended that Bernard Jenkin pay back £63,250 by expenses auditor Sir Thomas Legg. This is the highest amount known to have been recommended after an audit of MPs' claims on second homes expenses.[4][5] This amount was reduced to £36,250 following an appeal.[6]
And of course if you live in a "duck house in a moat" there is a different interpretation of the laws!
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I wonder sometimes about the departure of the Fox Liam and The Hunt and Murdoch.
But what do I know!
If you pay £50 for a bottle of wine that is petty cash, but more than somebody deserves on the "dole" when they can't get a job.
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Stuff it.
This government standards stink.
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2014 09:43
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CALL ME DAVE, DAVID CAMERON, LEVESON, MARIA MILLER, MPS, PIANO WIRE, THE POLITICAL CLASS, UKIP
Maria Miller axed but for how long? The political class just do not get it
Thursday 10 April 2014
Share this article with your comrades in revolutionary capitalism
- Tom Winnifrith
And so finally the greedy pig Culture Secretary has quit as a minister. This vile woman is an expenses cheat. Someone who has stolen taxpayer’s cash for vast personal enrichment. In the private sector she would not have been demoted (from minister to MP) but fired. And then prosecuted. And would never worked in her chosen career again. But she is an MP so it is different. The greedy pig Miller will be back.
Who says so? Call Me Dave Cameron says so. He looks forward to welcoming her back to Government. Like David Laws and many others before him the thief gets a temporary demotion and when we poor saps, the plebs, the peasants, the taxpayers who pay for this stinking farce have become a bit less angry, the crim will be allowed back into Government. Cameron has said so explicitly.
I am not sure what makes me most angry. Is it the thievery of Miller? Is it the way that she then pretended this was merely a media witch-hunt against her because of her role in driving through gay marriage legislation and in implementing the Leveson gagging of the press? Just to smear anyone who challenged her thievery as a bigot is just loathsome. But that is what politicians always do when challenged – they smear. Or is it the way that the political classes will now rally round to look after one of their own? You can already hear it: “Ms Miller is the real victim today, she made an honest mistake, she has paid a dreadful penalty, done the honourable thing etc., etc.”
Bollocks. The pig stole my money ( as a taxpayer it is my money) made a million quid and will be back in the cabinet if the Tories win the election next year. She tried to tough it out but (quite rightly) the media hounded her. That is what the media is there for – to act as a check on venal politicians who refuse to do the honourable thing even when 97% of their constituents when polled think they should do so.
At every level I am angry and so are most folks. The political classes don’t care. They won’t listen. Miller will remain an MP and be a minister again – it is not as if the political classes give a flying fuck about right and wrong or what the plebs think. And even more of us will give up on the system.
Piano wire for the lot of them is my solution. Failing that I will vote UKIP in May. They may be an unattractive bunch with some crackpot and unpleasant ideas and an egomaniac as a leader, but a UKIP vote is the clearest two fingers I can send to all three established parties.
ptholden
- 10 Apr 2014 10:21
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Final paragraph could be equally descriptive of Winnifrith himself.
Dil
- 10 Apr 2014 10:40
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lol
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2014 10:48
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Hes right though this time Dil.
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2014 10:49
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This market at the moment is so volatile. Very frustrating.
Wondering wether to shut everything down and take a long spring break.
Doesnt seem to know where its heading next.
goldfinger
- 10 Apr 2014 10:52
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European shares retreat in jittery trade
10 Apr 2014 - 10:49
LONDON, April 10 (Reuters) – European shares turned negative in choppy trade on Thursday, with traders citing a big sale of Euro STOXX 50 futures while disappointing industrial output figures from Italy and France dented sentiment. [ID:nR1N0HJ02B] [ID:nP6N0KN024] The FTSEurofirst 300 < .FTEU3> was down 0.5 percent at 1,330.85 points by 0943 GMT, retreating from an intra-session high of 1,345.34. Trading volume on the cash index was thin, at just over a third of its 90-day daily average.
Charts, however, showed a spike in volume on the Euro STOXX 50 June future from 0830 GMT as the contract swung into negative territory. Traders said this fall fuelled selling pressure on other indexes.
"It’s really light volume trading (on cash indexes)...any decent sized order is going to move things around, so if there is a big offer in the Euro STOXX it would weigh across all of the indices," Matt Basi, head of sales trading at CMC Markets, said.