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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2014 09:07 - 39431 of 81564

Exec,

"ONLY Labour MPs commit expense fraud."

I would recall this and and consider.


"Expenses claims[edit]
Main article: United Kingdom Parliamentary expenses scandal
In May 2009 Jenkin was reported by the Daily Telegraph to have used £50,000 in expenses in order to pay his sister-in-law rent on the property he uses as his constituency home. Jenkin claimed that he was just paying "an honest and reasonable rent" for the property.[3]

On 27 October 2009 it was initially recommended that Bernard Jenkin pay back £63,250 by expenses auditor Sir Thomas Legg. This is the highest amount known to have been recommended after an audit of MPs' claims on second homes expenses.[4][5] This amount was reduced to £36,250 following an appeal.[6]



And of course if you live in a "duck house in a moat" there is a different interpretation of the laws!


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I wonder sometimes about the departure of the Fox Liam and The Hunt and Murdoch.

But what do I know!


If you pay £50 for a bottle of wine that is petty cash, but more than somebody deserves on the "dole" when they can't get a job.

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Stuff it.

This government standards stink.

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2014 09:18 - 39432 of 81564

Perhaps the cartoon has a solution!

goldfinger - 10 Apr 2014 09:43 - 39433 of 81564

CALL ME DAVE, DAVID CAMERON, LEVESON, MARIA MILLER, MPS, PIANO WIRE, THE POLITICAL CLASS, UKIP

Maria Miller axed but for how long? The political class just do not get it
Thursday 10 April 2014
Share this article with your comrades in revolutionary capitalism


- Tom Winnifrith

And so finally the greedy pig Culture Secretary has quit as a minister. This vile woman is an expenses cheat. Someone who has stolen taxpayer’s cash for vast personal enrichment. In the private sector she would not have been demoted (from minister to MP) but fired. And then prosecuted. And would never worked in her chosen career again. But she is an MP so it is different. The greedy pig Miller will be back.

Who says so? Call Me Dave Cameron says so. He looks forward to welcoming her back to Government. Like David Laws and many others before him the thief gets a temporary demotion and when we poor saps, the plebs, the peasants, the taxpayers who pay for this stinking farce have become a bit less angry, the crim will be allowed back into Government. Cameron has said so explicitly.

I am not sure what makes me most angry. Is it the thievery of Miller? Is it the way that she then pretended this was merely a media witch-hunt against her because of her role in driving through gay marriage legislation and in implementing the Leveson gagging of the press? Just to smear anyone who challenged her thievery as a bigot is just loathsome. But that is what politicians always do when challenged – they smear. Or is it the way that the political classes will now rally round to look after one of their own? You can already hear it: “Ms Miller is the real victim today, she made an honest mistake, she has paid a dreadful penalty, done the honourable thing etc., etc.”

Bollocks. The pig stole my money ( as a taxpayer it is my money) made a million quid and will be back in the cabinet if the Tories win the election next year. She tried to tough it out but (quite rightly) the media hounded her. That is what the media is there for – to act as a check on venal politicians who refuse to do the honourable thing even when 97% of their constituents when polled think they should do so.

At every level I am angry and so are most folks. The political classes don’t care. They won’t listen. Miller will remain an MP and be a minister again – it is not as if the political classes give a flying fuck about right and wrong or what the plebs think. And even more of us will give up on the system.

Piano wire for the lot of them is my solution. Failing that I will vote UKIP in May. They may be an unattractive bunch with some crackpot and unpleasant ideas and an egomaniac as a leader, but a UKIP vote is the clearest two fingers I can send to all three established parties.

ptholden - 10 Apr 2014 10:21 - 39434 of 81564

Final paragraph could be equally descriptive of Winnifrith himself.

Dil - 10 Apr 2014 10:40 - 39435 of 81564

lol

goldfinger - 10 Apr 2014 10:48 - 39436 of 81564

Hes right though this time Dil.

goldfinger - 10 Apr 2014 10:49 - 39437 of 81564

This market at the moment is so volatile. Very frustrating.

Wondering wether to shut everything down and take a long spring break.

Doesnt seem to know where its heading next.

goldfinger - 10 Apr 2014 10:52 - 39438 of 81564

European shares retreat in jittery trade

10 Apr 2014 - 10:49
LONDON, April 10 (Reuters) – European shares turned negative in choppy trade on Thursday, with traders citing a big sale of Euro STOXX 50 futures while disappointing industrial output figures from Italy and France dented sentiment. [ID:nR1N0HJ02B] [ID:nP6N0KN024] The FTSEurofirst 300 < .FTEU3> was down 0.5 percent at 1,330.85 points by 0943 GMT, retreating from an intra-session high of 1,345.34. Trading volume on the cash index was thin, at just over a third of its 90-day daily average.
Charts, however, showed a spike in volume on the Euro STOXX 50 June future from 0830 GMT as the contract swung into negative territory. Traders said this fall fuelled selling pressure on other indexes.
"It’s really light volume trading (on cash indexes)...any decent sized order is going to move things around, so if there is a big offer in the Euro STOXX it would weigh across all of the indices," Matt Basi, head of sales trading at CMC Markets, said.

Haystack - 10 Apr 2014 11:04 - 39439 of 81564

Miller nonsense not harming City conservatives in polls

Update - Labour lead at 3
by YouGov in Politics
Thu April 10, 2014 6 a.m. BST

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 9th April - Con 33%, Lab 36%, LD 10%, UKIP 14%;

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2014 12:35 - 39440 of 81564

GF,

The market is a b a the moment.

Put a few bob long on TW.



Fred1new - 10 Apr 2014 12:44 - 39441 of 81564

An interesting poll looking at the Party of cons.


Meanwhile a new TNS-BMRB poll also has Labour in first place, but only narrowly ahead of UKIP with the Conservatives in quite a distant third. Topline figures are CON 21%, LAB 30%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 29%.



Real success there Haze!

doodlebug4 - 10 Apr 2014 13:07 - 39442 of 81564

I think Tom Winnifrith's use of language is disgusting. He could surely try to get his message across in the public domain without using foul-mouthed abuse.

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2014 14:15 - 39443 of 81564

DB4,

I think he is trying to point out that the message through impenetrable thick skulls of MPs and this government who attempt to brush their dishonesty aside.

The behaviour of many of the government is arrogant.

goldfinger - 10 Apr 2014 14:20 - 39444 of 81564

Very arrogant, especially IDS Camoron and Giddeon.

aldwickk - 10 Apr 2014 14:24 - 39445 of 81564

goldie

did you see the picture of my business in the philippines

doodlebug4 - 10 Apr 2014 14:29 - 39446 of 81564

Fred, if he's trying to get his message through to MPs then he's not going to have much success using language associated with yobs. I agree that many MPs are arrogant, but it doesn't just apply to the Tory party.

ExecLine - 10 Apr 2014 14:30 - 39447 of 81564

Where can I put a bet on, that before 31 December 2018, we will cease being members of the EU ?

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2014 14:38 - 39448 of 81564

DB4,

Wouldn't suggest that arrogance is owned by the tory party yet.

Even I, myself, have been told that I am occasionally arrogant.

Mind I don't value those, who held that that opinion!

8-)

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Exec.

Should be able to put your bet on in a local madhouse!


8-)

Haystack - 10 Apr 2014 14:41 - 39449 of 81564

It looks like Paddypower and William Hill do bets on EU referendums and leaving. I think you can get a bet on the first country to leave as a few others are considering it.

ExecLine - 10 Apr 2014 14:44 - 39450 of 81564

Here's quite a bit on the detail of it: Withdrawal from the European Union - Wikipedia

For a start, it should be much easier to do because we are not in the Euro zone.

Personally speaking, I do want us to come out and I actually think it will be greatly beneficial to our trade with the rest of the world and won't harm our trade with the EU one jot.

The benefit to staying in, that I would wish to keep, is the virtual impossibility of going to war with any of the other current fellow members. As to how to nail this for sure has to be the subject of some type of membership association and we already have this - in the form of our membership of the EU. I guess we might need to either stay in then or swap it for membership of something else.

Hmmm?
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