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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 16 Apr 2014 09:23 - 39614 of 81564

I know it the successful Con party's Food Banks.

The major tory success of 4 years of misgovernment.

MaxK - 16 Apr 2014 09:30 - 39615 of 81564

Fred1new - 16 Apr 2014 09:41 - 39616 of 81564




I do hope the tories utilize their minister of self employment Esther Louise McVey!

She expresses the real face of the con party!

cynic - 16 Apr 2014 11:23 - 39617 of 81564

haha Stan .... rather hoped i would provoke more barbed comment than that :-)

MaxK - 16 Apr 2014 11:40 - 39618 of 81564

The economic miracle continues.....



Report: 450,000 recently 'self-employed' Brits would rather just have a normal job



Nigel Morris Author Biography


Deputy Political Editor


Wednesday 16 April 2014



Hundreds of thousands of people are being forced to register as self-employed after failing to find jobs elsewhere, new research has discovered.





Figures today are expected to show another fall in the overall unemployment rate, which has dropped by more than 300,000 since the end of 2011.

In a further fillip for the Coalition, separate statistics are likely to reveal that wage rises have finally overtaken inflation for the first time in four years.

Part of the explanation of the downward trend in unemployment has been a steady rise in the number of people becoming self-employed since the economic downturn.

However, a survey by the Resolution Foundation suggests that many previously jobless people have opted to work for themselves because they have no alternative.

The number of people in employment in Britain has risen to just over 30 million, of whom 4.5 million are registered as self-employed.

A Ipsos Mori survey for the think-tank found that more one quarter (28 per cent) of people declaring themselves self-employed over the last five years would prefer to be employees, a far higher proportion than among people who have self-employed for a longer period.


more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/report-450000-recently-selfemployed-brits-would-rather-just-have-a-normal-job-9262913.html

cynic - 16 Apr 2014 12:03 - 39619 of 81564

i dare say most miners or steelworkers would rather have stayed in those industries too, but life isn't like that and times and circumstances move on

however, i'm quite surprised how LOW the % quoted is for those self-employed for 5 years, and that then drops away significantly as further time elapses .... so what does that tell you?

not a convincing article at all, but then it was primarily about creating an attention-grabbing headline than content

Haystack - 16 Apr 2014 12:25 - 39620 of 81564

Here is an item for believers in conspiracies

All Passengers of Missing Flight MH370 Alive? Russian Intelligence Claims Plane Hijacked by Terrorist Called ‘Hitch’, Landed in Afghanistan

Russian intelligence sources have claimed that all passengers and crew members aboard the missing Malaysian Flight MH370 are alive and the plane was, in fact, hijacked and flown to Afghanistan. (Also Read: MH370's Co-pilot Made Mid-Flight Call from Mobile Phone)

A source in Russian's FSB secret service has reportedly said that the plane was hijacked and flown close to the Afghan-Pakistan border and all people aboard the plane are currently being held hostage.

The intelligence source provided the data to a correspondent of a Russian newspaper, Moskovsky Komsomolets.

"Flight MH370 malaysia Airlines missing on 8 March with 239 passengers was hijacked. Pilots are not guilty; the plane was hijacked by unknown terrorists. We know that the name of the terrorist who gave instructions to pilots is "Hitch." The plane is in Afghanistan not far from Kandahar near the border with Pakistan," the source was quoted as saying.

The Russian newspaper has said that the passengers have been divided into seven groups and are living in mud huts with almost no food, according to Daily Star.

The report said that 20 passengers who were Asian have been smuggled into a bunker in Pakistan. It is also claimed that the terrorists are possibly seeking to bargain with either America or China.

The news, however, has not been confirmed by authorities either in Malaysia or China and must be taken with caution as there are no credible evidence to prove that this is what has happened. Also, the news cannot be independently verified due to the anonymity of the source to the Russian newspaper.


goldfinger - 16 Apr 2014 12:38 - 39621 of 81564

cynic - 16 Apr 2014 07:45 - 39612 of 39622

i am very fond of oysters and lobster, but even the idea of having to eat them day after day would quickly pall the appetite......................ends

well you, you prawn posted more political posts than anybody yesterday.!!!!!!!!

goldfinger - 16 Apr 2014 12:41 - 39622 of 81564

MaxK - 16 Apr 2014 08:02 - 39613 of 39623

So where is the money going?

Britain has fewer hospital beds than most European countries, OECD says.........ends

syphoned off to private companys, thats where the money is going.

Haystack - 16 Apr 2014 12:49 - 39623 of 81564

But a Department of Health spokesman said: ‘Bed numbers are not an accurate marker for good care. The NHS is treating people quicker than ever, and more care is being delivered in the community, so far fewer need to stay overnight – which is often better for patients who prefer being at home.

‘Hospitals are also better managing bed capacity to cope with balancing peaks in demand for routine and emergency care.’

cynic - 16 Apr 2014 12:56 - 39624 of 81564

yesterday was an oyster and lobster day :-) ..... and it was actually enjoyable and interesting too, and not one of those silly knockabouts

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‘Hospitals are also better managing bed capacity to cope with balancing peaks in demand for routine and emergency care.’
but that can also mean shovelling patients out the door asap, and perhaps prematurely
admittedly we now have a far larger population and there have been huge advances in medical care and technique, but unless i am much mistaken, new mothers (for example) get booted out the next day, whereas in the past, they'ld have spent 2/3/4 days in hospital

2517GEORGE - 16 Apr 2014 12:56 - 39625 of 81564

gf, I believe when Labour threw cartloads of money at the NHS the bulk of it went on higher salaries for senior management, patients and nurses saw very little benefit.
2517

goldfinger - 16 Apr 2014 12:57 - 39626 of 81564

Inflation drop doesn’t mean wages will rise
16
Wednesday
Apr 2014
Posted by Mike Sivier in Business, Cost of living.

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‘For the privileged few’: If you’re earning the average wage of £26,500 per year, or less, then nothing George Osborne says will be relevant to you.

Why are the mainstream media so keen to make you think falling inflation means your wages will rise?

There is absolutely no indication that this will happen.

If you are lucky, and the drop in inflation (to 1.7 per cent) affects things that make a difference to the pound in your pocket, like fuel prices, groceries and utility bills, then their prices are now outstripping your ability to pay for them at a slightly slower rate. Big deal.

The reports all say that private sector wages are on the way up – but this includes the salaries of fatcat company bosses along with the lowest-paid office cleaners.

FTSE-100 bosses all received more pay by January 8 than average workers earn in a year. Their average annual pay rise is 14 per cent. Bankers get 35 per cent. These are all included in the national private sector average of 1.7 per cent, which means you get a lot less than the figures suggest.

Occasional Chancellor George Osborne said: “These latest inflation numbers are welcome news for families.” Why? Because they aren’t sinking into debt quite as fast as they were last month? They’re great news for the fatcats mentioned above, along with MPs, who are in line to get an inflation-busting 11 per cent rise; but as far as families are concerned, rest assured he’s lying again.

“Lower inflation and rising job numbers show our long-term plan is working, and bringing greater economic security,” he had the cheek to add. Employment has risen, although we should probably discount a large proportion of the self-employed statistics as these are most likely people who’ve been encouraged to claim tax credits rather than unemployment benefits and will be hit with a huge overpayment bill once HMRC finds out (as discussed in many previous articles).

The problem is, Britain’s economic performance has not improved in line with the number of extra jobs. If we have more people in work now than ever before in this nation’s history, then the economy should be going gangbusters – surging ahead, meaning higher pay for everybody and a much bigger tax take for the government, solving its debt reduction problem and ensuring it can pay for our public services – right?

We all know that isn’t happening. It isn’t happening because the large employment figures are based on a mixture of lies and low wages. The economy can’t surge forward because ordinary people aren’t being paid enough – and ordinary working people are the ones who fuel national economies; from necessity they spend a far higher percentage of their earnings than the fatcats and it is the circulation of this money that generates profit, and tax revenues.

Osborne compounded his lies by adding: “There is still much more we need to do to build the resilient economy I spoke of at the Budget.” He has no intention of doing any such thing. He never had.

Conservative economic policy is twofold, it seems: Create widescale unemployment in order to depress wages for those who do the actual work and boost profits for bosses and shareholders; and cut the national tax take to ensure that they can tell us the UK cannot afford a welfare state, opening the door for privatised medicine and private health and income insurance firms.

This is why, as has been discussed very recently, leaders of the Margaret Thatcher era including Nicholas Ridley and Keith Joseph determined that the defeat of the workers would require “the substantial destruction of Britain’s remaining industrial base” (according to ‘The Impact of Thatcherism on Health and Well-Being in Britain’). It is, therefore, impossible for George Osborne to seek to build any “resilient economy” that will improve your lot, unless you are a company boss, banker, or shareholder.

The plan to starve the public sector, as has been repeated many times on this blog, has been named ‘Starving the Beast’ and involves ensuring that the tax take cannot sustain public services by keeping working wages so low that hardly any tax comes in (the Tory Democrat determination to raise the threshold at which takes is paid plays right into this scheme) and cutting taxes for the extremely well-paid (and we have seen this take place, from 50 per cent to 45. Corporation tax has also been cut by 25 per cent).

This is why Ed Balls is right to say that average earnings are £1,600 per year less than in May 2010, why Labour is right to point out that the economy is still performing well below its height under Labour…

… and why the government and the mainstream media are lying to you yet again.

cynic - 16 Apr 2014 13:02 - 39627 of 81564

sticky - are spanish, french, belgian or even german (just a random list) better places to be?
i don't think that's quite the right question either, as it should be more slanted to whether or not it is free, the care more caring and so on and so forth
it's not nearly as simple as you might like to pretend

that said, there is more assuredly an awful lot wrong with nhs, but i don't think it's anything like just chucking several £bn into the pot either

Haystack - 16 Apr 2014 13:02 - 39628 of 81564

cynic
When my two were born, my wife was back next day with the first and back the same day about 5 hours after the second. Both born at University College H as I was. When I was born, the same year as you I think, my mother was in hospital for at least a week which was normal.

goldfinger - 16 Apr 2014 13:04 - 39629 of 81564

MONDAY, 14 APRIL 2014

Every major chunk of your NHS offered to Private Health listed here. A massive £15 billion quid's worth.................................

http://www.greenbenchesuk.com/

Haystack - 16 Apr 2014 13:06 - 39630 of 81564

One of the big changes in hospital care is the number of day procedures such as hernia. These used to require a stay and now patients go home afterwards. The UK is a leader in such treatments and this would reduce the need for beds.

goldfinger - 16 Apr 2014 13:10 - 39631 of 81564

Well ask yourself Cyners where is the NHS going when the government is syphoning it all off to their mates??????.

What will it be like in 5 years time if this rate of sell off above in the drop down list carrys on.

Dont listen to Hays he wants an economy based on pure capitalism not responsible capitalism.

cynic - 16 Apr 2014 13:12 - 39632 of 81564

sticky .....
what is the total nhs budget?
it may well be that nhs gets good value for money having tendered out these procedures ...... for all sorts of reasons .... do you have proof to the contrary, or are you just on one of your customary "bashing crusades"?

you also seem to glibly assume that the top consultants etc would like to work in nhs full time (or at all), which of course is not the case and for all sorts of reasons

goldfinger - 16 Apr 2014 13:49 - 39633 of 81564

Cyners go on the list and scroll to the right, it gives you the details of the contract.

And yes I dont want the NHS sold off to third partys who can hold the government to ransom.

Lets face it does this government have a good record with third partys eg ATOS etc etc.

I dont think so.

And if top consultants dont want to work for the NHS I can tell you now they can go F off, theirs plenty to take their places.
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