Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I have private medical care for my family, I see my local GP and should I require I can get refferred to a private consultant... Your right, it allows me to que jump NHS waiting lists and receive better care and treatments than on the NHS. I see nothing wrong with this, I still contribute to the NHS in the same way any other tax paying person does. Its the lost contributions and the time wasters that pull the service down, this is what going private ultimatly avoids.

Manuel,

Because many part timers in the NHS are not providing the duties they are paid for by the NHS due to their other commitments. Also, they are using the NHS for their training purposes and the some part timers stay in the NHS because of its advertising potential for their private practices.

you know that for a fact?

part timers
i bet many part-time doctors are working mothers who have taken permitted and NHS-paid maternity leave and then returned, often to complete their training, and are also permitted by the system to work just part-time


not working as paid for
oh really?
so where's the system and quality control that allows such abuse, and waste of money?

GF.

At the time of the next elections I hope labour and the parties other than the very nasty lying party put on the hoardings the list of Camerons ill-thoughout policies he lied about and U-turn upon.

Also the constant manipulation (lying) of the economic data.

The ongoing failures of the NHS and the break down of education (Schools and Universities and the Academic Research)

I hope that labour or a coalition government hold a public enquiry into the activities and financing, failures and collusion with business of the present torid party.

Manuel,

You are out of your depth.

I have a good working and observational knowledge of the NHS and private practice and its day to day management.

Fred - Hope planted a feather and thought a chicken would grow.:-)

Wow, I don't think the NHS is an ongoing failure, quite the opposite... Not sure how anyone could believe there's been a breakdown of education either.

Sure activities of the parties and further enquiry into financing is needed but I doubt we'll ever see full transparency.

so answer the questions then as you have pretensions to such a fund of knowledge

at least i have first-hand knowledge, so though i profess no great depth, at least i know what i write has unbiased truth attaching

Queue jumping with money happens in all walks of life. More money often produces better service and that is just a fact of life. People get pompous when it involves education or health. In fact the money takes the burden off public services. Even if you stop private education then people will buy houses close to the best schools and there is nothing you can do stop it. Near me there is a school which is possibly the best state school in London. The result is that houses are £2m+ in the catchment area. The catchment is just 500 yards from the school as a result. Every house close to the school has a family with children at the school. The houses opposite the school are £3m+.

fred+sticky - do you fly? ...... if so, do you pre-book your seat? ...... if not, is that because you are too mean, don't care if you sit at the very back of the plane so take an age to get through immigration, or have moral scruples (queue jumping) about paying a few pennies more for a decent seat (ideally an exit row)?

Maybe then I should try and poach the Head and some teachers for my local school.. It would do wonders for the price of my house as a result!!

It isn't all to do with the school. The parents clearly have money to live there. They care about education because that is why they moved there. The quality of the school and their exam success is a self fulkfilkibg prophecy as the kids are expected to well and there are no difficult kids in the school. A lit of the chattering classes live here plus a large number of actors and musicians.

When their kids have taken their exams the parents move and take their profit and a new load move in. That way they get a public school quality education for free.

RAF Typhoons being moved to Eastern Europe together with other NATO assets.

there are no difficult kids in the school.
bet there are, and it is a certainty that drink and drugs are also quite a problem ...... it matters not from which social group children come from, or even their familial input, for some will be found susceptible and easy targets

Drink, drugs, sex, porn, and various forms of violence exist in every school. They always have, because they're part of the society we live in...

It depends on what you mean by drink and drugs problem. The area attract a lot of liberal lefties and I know that many of the parents use weed. Like all middle class areas the parents also probably drink too much. I know a lot of the kids who go there and there seems to be no drink or drugs problem. There is a absolute zero tolerance at the school. The kids do not go out mid day and you have to agree to your child being randomly searched. There has never been an incident that I am aware of. The pupils are incredibly well behaved out of school and polite. Their idea of fun out of school apart from sport is to get together and have a meal in a restaurant. They are very sociable and pleasant company.

Well you can put all the arguments you want up against siding with private health care and private education but it doesnt sit well with me.

Just because you have money doesnt mean its right to gain an advantage at the start of your life with education and likewise going on towards the ends of your life why should your mother or father be seen before someone elses mother or father who may have been sick for a much longer time.

Its nothing but que jumping and high time it was ended in this country.

This is not responsible capitalism, in fact its 'playing with God'.

And the likes of Hays who use pathetic excuses for its existence should hang their head in shame. Its deeply moraly wrong, and this is supposed to be a country that believes in morals if you take note of the liar David Cameron.

sticky - that's very much your personal choice with which i don't happen to agree, or only marginally in places

but tell me about pre-booking your seat on a flight
do you?

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hays .... your write "you have to agree to your child being randomly searched", which by implication tells us that the school does indeed have its drink and drugs problems - all schools do (and probably paedophile teachers too), and day schools, for fairly obvious reasons, are the more prone

No I dont pre book a seat.

I can fall asleep on the town hall steps (and have done) (plus Rochdales) I have no fear of flying and can relax very easily. Her indoors is a bit nervy, but she'd rather sit at the side of me than someone else.........well most times.

so you don't have any objection to people who do spend a couple of shillings to pre-book their seat?