Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Need for food banks is caused by welfare cuts, research shows
Created on Thursday, 10 April 2014 11:34
Category: Latest news

Report warns that as social security safety nets become weaker, charity provision could replace state-funded schemes

The government's welfare reforms, including benefit sanctions and the bedroom tax, are a central factor in the explosion in the numbers of impoverished people turning to charity food banks, an academic study has said.

The study, part of a three-year investigation into emergency food provision, was carried out by Hannah Lambie-Mumford, a Sheffield University researcher who co-authored a recently published government report into the extent of food aid in the UK.

That report in February concluded there was insufficient evidence to demonstrate a clear causal link between welfare reform and food bank demand in the UK.

But Lambie-Mumford's new study, to be published on April 9, says the rise in demand for charity food is a clear signal "of the inadequacy of both social security provision and the processes by which it is delivered".

The report warns that as social security safety nets become weaker, there is a danger that charity food could become an integral part of the state welfare provision, or even a replacement for formerly state-funded emergency welfare schemes.

Her paper will be presented to an all-party committee of MPs which meets on 9 April to finalise the terms of an inquiry into hunger and food poverty.

The inquiry will examine the rise of food banks, an issue that has become politically charged as ministers attempt to deflect criticism that austerity policies, including welfare cuts, have had the effect of compelling more people on low incomes to rely on food aid.

Picture pinched off private album on Flicker

https://www.flickr.com/photos/laurenrosenbaum/4084466710/in/photostream/

well young sticky, i'll leave you and the boys to your soapbox oratory (enjoy enjoy) as i'm about to go out for most of the rest of the day


btw, did you have another look at TW?
and if someone is to be believed, you're a total arsehole (i never said that!) if you don't fill your boots with CHA even now :-)

Beginning to think Hays is really sick.

What a pathetic smallman.

God help him if anything toward happens to his family.

his comment about the pic was actually very fair

may catch up late this afternoon :-)

Yep thats true but not the ref to worms etc etc, nasty nasty nasty person.

Cyners had a look at TW yep like the look of the pull back but going very carefull and spacing buys apart at the moment, this market is terribly volatile.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/laurenrosenbaum/4084466710/in/photostream/

we went to the park and anne found an earthworm.

she promptly named it "flower", the most beautiful name in the world (da most bootifull name in da wold).

i convinced her to let me babysit flower, while she played. we then decided to put flower in the grass, so she could have a nap, and then when it was time to go we would find flower and bring her home, to live in our garden.

only flower didn't nap, she scootched away, and anne cried for the next 25 minutes.we went to the park and anne found an earthworm.

she promptly named it "flower", the most beautiful name in the world (da most bootifull name in da wold).

i convinced her to let me babysit flower, while she played. we then decided to put flower in the grass, so she could have a nap, and then when it was time to go we would find flower and bring her home, to live in our garden.

only flower didn't nap, she scootched away, and anne cried for the next 25 minutes.

he he, thought Id get you to break your filter hays.

Hows it going old lad?

I have filtered Fred permanently. I filtered you because you reposted a post from Fred which I don't want to read.

Hazy one,


Post 39695

He must have smelt you and was taking his tie and jacket off to scrape you up.

What checks are there that the needy are using food banks , how do they make checks , do they give them a means test ? If you offer free food lots of people would use them.

Why didn't Labour open food banks during the winter of discontent ?

Manuel,

With your obvious authority and there must be skills, why don't you take a week off and go and utilise the Food Bank ask around and live on the "benefits" the scroungers you meet there.

But of course tell them that you believe that many of them are frauds.

Better still take Hazy One with you, lend him your dosser's bag (or your tosser's bag) and sleep out for a couple of nights.

Your lucky the weather has warmed up.

===============

GF.

I wouldn't agree with the prevention of "private education".

They are like orphanages and needed to give offspring like Manuel and Hays offspring a chance to have adequate upbringing.

Talking of Labour and food banks an interesting situation became known early in this parliament - 2010.

When Labour were in power, benefit offices were told not to direct people to food banks. The presumption is that Labour did not want food banks to be an issue. The current government removed that prohibition and people are now referred to food banks with the necessary documentation.

Most food banks expect to see a document from the Benefit Office, Social Services or a doctor. There has been some publicity regarding doctors and social services giving a chit to anyone who asked for one. The same maybe true about the benefits people.

Whilst some families might benefit from the free food from food banks, 'others' will simply, as per usual, still keep pissing up their cash up the wall on a few 6-packs of strong lager, a few packets of fags, a few chancey bets down at their local Ladbrokes and a tattoo for their other arm/leg/butt cheek/back or whatever.

And there will be hell of a lot of these 'others', too.

Not to mention a 'couldn't care less', 'live now pay later' approach to poor budgeting, a reliance on expensive pre-prepared foods and 'take outs' and prioritising debts to mates, smokes and booze ahead of food and rent.

But of course tell them that you believe that many of them are frauds

fred - you're getting into sticky's bad habits ...... i did not write anything even intimating let alone approaching that
perhaps you might care to revisit what i actually wrote and see what holes you think you can pick in that

Could Methane Hydrate be a game changer? Apparently, there is oodles of it!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27021610

Just to explain the statistics again.

If you had a food bank in say Glasgow which was used by say 500 people and then at a later date opened another one in Southampton which was used by a different 500 people in a year you couldn’t say that the need for food banks was increasing as the need was already there but not satisfied until the two banks were opened. The situation is exactly the same if you open another 100 in varied areas. There is still the same demand even though you are serving more people.

There is another for the increase in the opening of food banks. Under the previous Labour government Benefits offices were forbidden to refer people to food banks with documentation. The current coalition removed that prohibition and benefits offices are one of the main referrers of people to food banks. The presumption is that Labour were embarrassed to admit the need for food banks. Isn’t always the way that Labour hide unpleasant truths.

39716 - didn't read this thoroughly, but at a glance ....... methane and lng (liquid natural gas) have similarities ..... lng also burns clean and is already gaining considerable traction as an alternative power supply ..... i suspect that methane (a very common gas) is pretty difficult to control

:-)

you have now , twice