Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

he he, thought Id get you to break your filter hays.

Hows it going old lad?

I have filtered Fred permanently. I filtered you because you reposted a post from Fred which I don't want to read.

Hazy one,


Post 39695

He must have smelt you and was taking his tie and jacket off to scrape you up.

What checks are there that the needy are using food banks , how do they make checks , do they give them a means test ? If you offer free food lots of people would use them.

Why didn't Labour open food banks during the winter of discontent ?

Manuel,

With your obvious authority and there must be skills, why don't you take a week off and go and utilise the Food Bank ask around and live on the "benefits" the scroungers you meet there.

But of course tell them that you believe that many of them are frauds.

Better still take Hazy One with you, lend him your dosser's bag (or your tosser's bag) and sleep out for a couple of nights.

Your lucky the weather has warmed up.

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GF.

I wouldn't agree with the prevention of "private education".

They are like orphanages and needed to give offspring like Manuel and Hays offspring a chance to have adequate upbringing.

Talking of Labour and food banks an interesting situation became known early in this parliament - 2010.

When Labour were in power, benefit offices were told not to direct people to food banks. The presumption is that Labour did not want food banks to be an issue. The current government removed that prohibition and people are now referred to food banks with the necessary documentation.

Most food banks expect to see a document from the Benefit Office, Social Services or a doctor. There has been some publicity regarding doctors and social services giving a chit to anyone who asked for one. The same maybe true about the benefits people.

Whilst some families might benefit from the free food from food banks, 'others' will simply, as per usual, still keep pissing up their cash up the wall on a few 6-packs of strong lager, a few packets of fags, a few chancey bets down at their local Ladbrokes and a tattoo for their other arm/leg/butt cheek/back or whatever.

And there will be hell of a lot of these 'others', too.

Not to mention a 'couldn't care less', 'live now pay later' approach to poor budgeting, a reliance on expensive pre-prepared foods and 'take outs' and prioritising debts to mates, smokes and booze ahead of food and rent.

But of course tell them that you believe that many of them are frauds

fred - you're getting into sticky's bad habits ...... i did not write anything even intimating let alone approaching that
perhaps you might care to revisit what i actually wrote and see what holes you think you can pick in that

Could Methane Hydrate be a game changer? Apparently, there is oodles of it!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27021610

Just to explain the statistics again.

If you had a food bank in say Glasgow which was used by say 500 people and then at a later date opened another one in Southampton which was used by a different 500 people in a year you couldn’t say that the need for food banks was increasing as the need was already there but not satisfied until the two banks were opened. The situation is exactly the same if you open another 100 in varied areas. There is still the same demand even though you are serving more people.

There is another for the increase in the opening of food banks. Under the previous Labour government Benefits offices were forbidden to refer people to food banks with documentation. The current coalition removed that prohibition and benefits offices are one of the main referrers of people to food banks. The presumption is that Labour were embarrassed to admit the need for food banks. Isn’t always the way that Labour hide unpleasant truths.

39716 - didn't read this thoroughly, but at a glance ....... methane and lng (liquid natural gas) have similarities ..... lng also burns clean and is already gaining considerable traction as an alternative power supply ..... i suspect that methane (a very common gas) is pretty difficult to control

:-)

you have now , twice

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

how some of the Tories on here have very short memories.

It was actualy the coalition that comissioned an independant report into Food Banks and got the results in February last year, but because the report proved their was no self fulfiling relationship between the banks and the users and that it was because of welfare cuts that had led to the boom in them they SUPPRESSED the report hid it and sat on it.

It was only one of those freedom requests that the report had to be published to the blushes of IDS and his little female snarling dwarf Ester.

Now come on lads if your going to debate food banks PLEASE dont ignore previous debates and evidence provided, it only leads to manuel and a few others getting nasty and saying we are talking too much politics.

Cameron quizzed over 'suppressed' food bank report
22 January 2014 | By Laurna Robertson

David Cameron was asked whether the government report into food poverty and food bank use has been ‘suppressed’ in Prime Minister’s Questions today.

food bank food poverty David Cameron
Huw Irranca-Davies, Labour MP for Ogmore, asked the PM why he is afraid of publishing the report that Defra commissioned in February 2013 and told him to ‘publish and be damned’. He said the report was shown to ministers late last year, but still has not been released to the public.

The PM used the opportunity to promote the fall in unemployment, 7.1 per cent in the three months to November to 2.32 million, but did not answer the question.

Stephen Twigg, Labour MP for Liverpool West Derby, previously asked during the same session if Mr Cameron would meet with the Trussell Trust to discuss the situation.

Earlier this week, the Trussell Trust said it is now offering ‘kettle boxes’ to people who can’t afford to switch on their cooker to boil pasta or rice.

Mr Cameron was asked in October whether he was proud of food bank use tripling. In the same month, research by Christians Against Poverty found that 78 per cent of its service users were using payday loans because they wanted money for food.

Manuel.

I would suggest that you reread my posting.

I was paid to be careful when I wrote anything.

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Exec,

I always thought trading, or simply buying and selling shares etc. was a gambling.

Also, I doubt that somebody, who has acquired a little cash, sitting in a chair pressing B. or S. etc. does less harm to society or more good for a society than somebody sitting in chair with a bet on the horses or dogs and drinking a flagon of ale.

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Not saying that the life "styles" of many at the bottom of the heap could not be "improved", but when I think of Manuel waiting at table for a crust or Hazy one getting out of his mind at Claridges I think the same could be said about them.


(But, anybody wishing to change my life style should expect a fair bit of resistance.)

Fred

Exec,

I always thought trading, or simply buying and selling shares etc. was a gambling.

Also, I doubt that somebody, who has acquired a little cash, sitting in a chair pressing B. or S. etc. does less harm to society or more good for a society than somebody sitting in chair with a bet on the horses or dogs and drinking a flagon of ale.

I will agree, that a little bit of most things is good for one, Fred. The odd bet, the odd cigar, the odd drink....

It's the addictions that spoil it. Gambling, Smoking and Alcohol particularly.

And girls!

BBC Radio 4's PM programme said John Bercow, the Speaker, told them that "seasoned parliamentarians" boycotted PMQs out of embarrassment and that some female MPs did not want to take part in the session.