Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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Look out Lynton Crosby, your times up.

Labour majority 40 seats!

From the level of the following why Hazy One ascribes to the torrid party:

"A couple of weeks ago someone sent me a link to a “poll” in the Tab (which, one understands, is some form of newspaper for students) that claimed to show Conservatives were in the lead amongst students. Nonsense of course, it was an open access voodoo poll with no attempt to get a meaningful or representative sample (hell, 10% of the sample were Cambridge students!). Of course, it was only a poll in a campus newspaper so I didn’t bother writing rude things about it, the only other media I found foolish enough to cite it were Vice and Breitbart.

Just for the record though, today’s Independent has a properly conducted poll of students by YouthSight (we’ve met them here before, under the name of Opinionpanel). This was a panel based survey amongst undergraduate full-time students, recruited via UCAS and validated through an ac.uk email address, weighted by type of university (Russell, pre-1992, post-1992, specialist), year of study and gender. In contrast to the voodoo poll above, it shows Labour with a solid lead amongst students who say they are likely to vote – Labour 43%, Conservatives 24%, Lib Dems 6%, Greens 14%, UKIP 5%. Compare and contrast.
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One really good cure for a jelly fish sting is apply warm urine or even to urinate on it.

Not that I'm suggesting it would be a good idea for our Prime Minister, you understand.

ah well you see, never believe what you hear, let alone read ..... a bit like some or even most of those silly poll results some are so keen to post here

the fact is that urine is actually not much use for curing jellyfish stings at all, and with some, it can actually make it worse

Evening chaps and chappesses.

How do you get the video thingy to post?




Why is Ukip still stealing conservative voters?


By Telegram Politics Last updated: April 18th, 2014


http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/telegram/100268181/why-is-ukip-still-stealing-conservative-voters/

That was an amazingly silly video.

It wont be so silly when Big Boris comes for Call Me Dave's job.

Is this reality appearing?

Just 46pc of us believe religion plays positive role

Less than half of Irish people feel religion plays a positive role in the country – while a third believe it has a negative effect.

Older Irish people were more likely to be positive towards religion than the rest of the population – with 70pc of those over 65 believing religion was a positive influence.

The WIN Gallup International poll found that overall, 46pc of Irish respondents said religion plays a positive role in the country.

Those of no religious persuasion at all were most likely to believe that religion had a negative effect in Ireland, at 70pc.

The most sceptical lived in Western Europe, which recorded significantly lower positivity than other regions.

As with the Irish, 45pc of Canadians were positive about religion, far ahead of France where just 20pc were positive and the UK (35pc).

Drop a few Nuclear bombs and have another poll.

Hazy One,

What do you mean by religion?

Bye the way when were you let down by religion?

What flimsier belief, do you hold now?

'The Government' need religion to do the job of 'preaching morality to the masses'.

Other than that, DC is joking. Doesn't he keep up with modern technology?

eg. The Large Hadron Collider, which helps in the task of explaining how matter can be created from nothing. Thus the start the universe doesn't need 'a creator being' and therefore, the whole idea of 'a creator god' being required to do just that, is trashed. Thus 'Religion' is just nothing more than mystic daft belief.

And the disease of mysticism is the worst disease of the human race!

eg. Hasn't DC watched just even an hour's worth of TV presented by Prof. Stephen Hawking? Such TV comes up with the same conclusion! God is just mysticism. There is no after life. Life does not begin when you die. When you die life ends!

What is required, is a big government re-think on how you get a better morality taught to everyone about everything and principally to do with 'Think before you act and do unto others as you would be done unto yourself.'

We might even get a better NHS, less litter around the place, more care and concern for the elderly, etc, etc, etc.

People who don't believe in god do a pretty good job at passing on morality. The number believing is falling fast, but there doesn't seem to be a decline in morality.

Haystack

Re: Your two sentences:

People who don't believe in god do a pretty good job at passing on morality. The number is falling fast,...

I agree wholeheartedly.

.....but there doesn't seem to be a decline in morality.

I'm not so sure on this one.

eg, The decline in care in the NHS is almost 'immoral' and there are numerous examples of how both management and staff don't seem to care.

eg. We often take our dog to the local 'Abington Park', where primarily, tons of kids and young adults (who are definitely the main culprits) don't care about leaving their litter. This in a way, is also quite 'immoral' too.

A group of youngsters can go and do their 'football training' on the park. After they've gone, they leave a whole pile of litter and liquid refreshment bottles behind! Such a lack of care towards the wider community just has to be 'immoral'.

I define immorality as being primarily 'unhealthy selfishness'.

And the stories we keep reading about bad care for the elderly also seems to indicate a lack of care, compassion (and poor morality) as well. It even lacks the morality of those involved in not doing a fair day's work for a fair day's pay. Albeit that one could argue about the 'fair day's pay', I suppose.

I suspect that your pervceived immorality, which is really being anti social, has more to do with the UK becoming ng multicultural and multi ethnic. We have acquired people from countries where their norms of behaviour are very different. I have a friend who worked in Lagos where corruption is normal and life is cheap. My friend bought his licence from the chief of the city police and was told not to stop if he hit someone with his car. If he was dead then it didn't matter and if he wasn't then he might attack him.

I don't think any of your examples amount to immorality.

Exe

A short time ago I met up with an old school friend who had a first in Mathematics and a Ph.D. at Oxford and has spent the most of his life as a senior lecturer in useful research at another University.

We equally shocked each other, by him saying that he still believed in a God and myself confessing to still being an atheist.

A mutual friend looked on and said nothing other than that another glass of wine was needed.

Beliefs sometimes bear little relationship to intelligence.


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Perhaps, a god and a religion objectifies for many their "wishes" with the strength of "feelings" of "needs".

Psychopaths have their own "morality" often concentrating on their desires and frustration if those feeling are not satisfied. Often they lack of empathy with others, and show little remorse, or an ability to feel "guilt" at advantaging themselves at the expense of others.

The replacement of "guilt" being replace by disappointment and not achieving what they wished.

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Is there such a thing as a Universal Morality?

If so based on what?

Who built the first (very) Large Hadron Collider?

Where did the matter come from?




Let there be light