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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 21 Apr 2014 18:01 - 39794 of 81564



New garden cities not required to include low-cost homes, minister says

Nick Boles says no stipulation would be imposed on schemes, despite Nick Clegg's pledge that they would help solve housing crisis


Rowena Mason, political correspondent


The Guardian, Monday 21 April 2014 17.02 BST


A Tory planning minister has admitted that the coalition's new wave of garden cities would not have to contain a single affordable home, despite Nick Clegg's claims that they would offer low-cost accommodation and help solve the UK's housing crisis.

As the government unveiled plans for new garden cities containing 15,000 homes each, it emerged that developers would not need to reserve a certain proportion of the properties for those struggling most with the cost of living.

Asked by Labour whether the first garden city in Ebbsfleet would contain low-cost homes, Nick Boles, a Conservative minister, said the government would "not impose a particular level of affordable housing for housing schemes".

"Unrealistic Section 106 agreements [which specify how many affordable homes should be built] result in no development, no regeneration and no community benefits," he added.



http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/apr/21/new-garden-cities-low-cost-homes

cynic - 21 Apr 2014 18:20 - 39795 of 81564

that's really stupid, though for houses in ebbsfleet will inevitably command good prices because of its commutability to london ..... nevertheless, if chelsea can have council housing (it does!) then why the hell not ebbsflet and similar?

MaxK - 21 Apr 2014 18:24 - 39796 of 81564

They don't want the oiks spoiling the area.

cynic - 21 Apr 2014 18:44 - 39797 of 81564

don't be such a pratt!
i'm amazed to hear that bit about the housing mix though, as it's usually ( i thought "always" nowadays) mandatory

MaxK - 21 Apr 2014 19:00 - 39798 of 81564

Why are you name calling?


The reason given is probably spot on!


"Unrealistic Section 106 agreements [which specify how many affordable homes should be built] result in no development, no regeneration and no community benefits," he added.

ExecLine - 21 Apr 2014 19:29 - 39799 of 81564

An MEP gets:

Salary: £79,000 pa

General Expenditure Allowance: £42,685 pa

This is supposed to cover cost of a constituency office: computers, phone bills, office rent but not staff and is worth up to EUR 4,299 per month (currently = £3,531.67). And it is an allowance – there’s no need to prove expenses or hand in any receipts.

Daily Allowance: £15,058
To cover hotel bills in Strasbourg (5 days a month) MEPs get £14,979 a year (18,240 EUR). No receipts are needed here either as the daily allowance is a flat-rate 304 EUR a day: a no-receipt, take the cash situation.

MEPs also get money for travel – though that is an expense, not an allowance – so they have to produce the receipts to claim that back.

And to pay any staff they hire, that goes directly to the staff and not through the MEP.

On that basis, it is difficult to see how any MEP can be accused (or even found guilty) of corruptly overcharging for expenses.

eg. "The Ukip leader is under pressure to explain what happened to almost £60,000 in EU funds which The Times revealed he said that he spent on a West Sussex office given to him rent-free."

The fact that his office was 'rent-free' is utterly irrelevant. His GEA allowance is paid to him and he does not have to account at all for how it is spent.

It's a bit like 'Immigration from the EU countries'. Tens of thousands of people are entitled to come over to the UK but no one has to count them or report the figures to anybody.

This is why UKIP are going to get my vote. They want us to come out of the EU completely and they particularly want their own MEPs to resign and stop claiming expenses and salaries when it happens.

(Hmmm? Thinks....... This almost sounds a bit too good to be true. Hmmm? Anyhow, for the moment, I'm definitely going to vote UKIP in the May European MEP Elections. Although I won't be doing the same in the General Election, where I will definitely be voting for for my local Tory MP, Andrea Leadsom. If you can come up with something good to make me change my mind on the MEP Elections, well, I'm listening.)

cynic - 21 Apr 2014 19:58 - 39800 of 81564

MEP's and the zillions employed through that system have been on a grotesque gravy train for as long as i can remember - and that's a very long time!

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and to quote the old adage, if it sounds too good to be true, then it is assuredly not true

cynic - 21 Apr 2014 20:02 - 39801 of 81564

39798 is why you're a pratt!

MaxK - 21 Apr 2014 20:16 - 39802 of 81564

Ah, ok...I take it you have no good reason for what you said.

cynic - 21 Apr 2014 20:24 - 39803 of 81564

it's just a really stupid and unwarranted comment
why on earth there isn't a stipulated quota of starter-price homes, i really do not know or even begin to understand, but that in no way correlates to or justifies your very silly comment
almost needless to say, the developers would much rather build houses to give the maximum return rather than lower value ones, but your haha-logic is (surprise surprise) totally preposterous

MaxK - 21 Apr 2014 21:33 - 39805 of 81564

Would you care to read back what you wrote c?

You ask and answer your own question....Not sure what you are drinking, but i'll have some!



cynic - 21 Apr 2014 20:24 - 39805 of 39806

it's just a really stupid and unwarranted comment
why on earth there isn't a stipulated quota of starter-price homes, i really do not know or even begin to understand, but that in no way correlates to or justifies your very silly comment
almost needless to say, the developers would much rather build houses to give the maximum return rather than lower value ones, but your haha-logic is (surprise surprise) totally preposterous

cynic - 21 Apr 2014 22:06 - 39806 of 81564

i know what i wrote .... "oiks" as you so disparagingly call those who want or need starter homes, do not remotely spoil the area, though the homes they need may well impact the developers bottom line

by the way, it was 1996 Pommard 1er Cru (Boillot) to go with the new season's roast shoulder of lamb

MaxK - 21 Apr 2014 23:52 - 39807 of 81564

You need to lay off the sauce c, cru or no, it messes with your reading ability.



"Unrealistic Section 106 agreements [which specify how many affordable homes should be built] result in no development, no regeneration and no community benefits," he added.

Haystack - 22 Apr 2014 00:33 - 39808 of 81564

Actually planning permission for developments often includes a stipulation of a proportion of social housing. It is not usually a high percentage as the developers won't go ahead with such a cut in their profit. It is interesting that the last government did not build any social housing even during the period when there was a boom in the economy,

VICTIM - 22 Apr 2014 07:57 - 39809 of 81564

It's a pretty sad state when an individual can't say that we're a Christian nation. Peter Tatchell yuck, makes me feel ill.

goldfinger - 22 Apr 2014 08:23 - 39810 of 81564

Its not what he said but the fact that its Cameron trying to win back votes from Ukipers after the gay vote.

Chris Carson - 22 Apr 2014 08:33 - 39811 of 81564

Hey GF........ Your silence on the football thread is deafening! Not one meant ion of "DAVEY IS OUR LEADER, DAVEY IS OUR LEADER!!!!" :O)

Chris Carson - 22 Apr 2014 08:36 - 39812 of 81564

Looks like "The Grim Reaper" job done at Goodison LOL!!!


Newcastle next stop for Moyes?

MaxK - 22 Apr 2014 08:41 - 39813 of 81564

Toast

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