Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Of course they voted for them, but it was Boris that swung it. Gove may not get to the final two so it may be academic. The Conservative MP remainers may make sure a remainer gets the job.

If May does win the PM vote, then the EU debate will still continue to
split the Tory's...

The Eurosceptics won't be pleased....

Haystacks you might know the ins and outs of the tory party membership rules
but that's about all...You know frick all about the ordinary man/woman in the
street...

Consumer confidence has plummeted in the wake of the vote to leave the EU and a recession "cannot be ruled out at this point", a report has warned.
The YouGov/CEBR (Centre for Economic and Business Research) Consumer Confidence Index slumped by seven points in the four days after the Brexit vote to match a level not seen since May 2013.
The figure had already fallen notably between May and June, mainly because of homeowners' concerns about property prices over the next 12 months and the levels of business activity at people's workplaces over the coming year, the report said.
CEBR director Scott Corfe said: "Brexit could lead to a marked slowdown in the economy over the coming months.
"The latest YouGov/CEBR consumer confidence data show households are highly spooked by recent developments, which we expect to filter through into a much weaker environment for retail sales and household spending - particularly on big-ticket items.
"A recession certainly cannot be ruled out at this point."
Stephen Harmston, head of YouGov Reports, said: "Consumer confidence has collapsed since the vote to leave the EU. Four days of uncertainty has wiped out the gains made over the last three years.
"It has not yet reached the depths of the financial crisis in 2008 but we expect it to decline further as some of the consequences of Brexit kick in.
"The only question now is will it slump to the levels it reached eight years ago or will it pull itself out of this dive?"
Meanwhile, the latest pre-Brexit figures from the GfK Consumer Confidence Index show confidence is languishing in negative territory with "plenty of volatility" expected ahead - at least until Brexit negotiations are under way.
The index shows "deepening pessimism" over the general economic situation, with the measure already 18 points lower than this time last year ahead of last week's vote.

It makes little difference what the man on the Clapham Omnibus thinks. The Conservative MPs will mainly determine the new leader. May has the advantage of being supported by Leave and Remain Conservative MPs. Before Boris dropped out, May was way ahead among the MPs.

For a remainer to represent blighty in the divorce proceedings is beyond parody.


Electing May would be a big mistake, she wouldnt even state her position in the run up.

End of the tory party, just like Labour.

This from Yougov. It isn't a poll in the ordinary sense. It asking all the Conservative MPs who will do the actual voting.

Part of the turnaround appears to be the perception that Theresa May is better placed to unite the party – 64% of party members said this was one of the most important considerations (up twenty points since Febrary) and May has a thirty point lead over Johnson on who would be better able to unite the party (46% to 16%). Given the current political and economic situation, she also has a lead over Johnson on ability to handle a crisis (49% to 18%), taking tough decisions (46% to 18%) and negotiating with Europe (32% to 22%).

gove would never have my vote ..... i think he's unelectable
my choice would be theresa as she's tough, from the remain camp and therefore more likely or even capable of putting humpty-dumpty back together again

To think we have another fecking 9 weeks of this .

May has said she would not call an election until 2020.

Why is Eagle putting herself against Corblimey . is it just to remove him and then properly select a serious candidate . I await any answers no jokes please like , the Eagle has landed , or Eagle ruffles Corbyn's feathers .

It's a good idea for May to keep the ball rolling till 2020, because she has no chance of winning a popular vote.

They might as well have kept Dave.

Haystack, You are just like the Labour party..In denial...There might be 150,000
tory members, do you think they will get the tory's back into power?

You totally disregard the man/woman in the street, and yet you hope the tory's
keep power...You arrogant piece of shit...

As to you quoting Youguv polls, they're the worst predictors in the polling world...LMFAO!!

The Yougov poll is a 100% poll of Conservative MPs not a sample of the public or even members. With Corbyn as leader, any Conservative would beat him. There is a good chance that if Corbyn wins the leadership again, the Labour party may split into two parties.

at least there is some decorum in the manner in which the tories are going about electing their next leader

the labour party's antics are just the most ridiculous slapstick , but if that's the way corbyn wants to play, then the rest of us can stand back in amazement and guffaw

The problem with Trots and Marxists is that they don't want to give up power. It is no coincidence that all socialist countries sink into dictatorships and become totalitarian states, especially the ones that Corbyn supports.

I didn't think he supported the €U?

I don't know why the Eu doesn't just go back to how it was when it was the EEC ,trade together and that's it , or it's game over down the road.

Look at the FTSE , we really are done for George

The problem with Trots and Marxists is that they don't want to give up power.


Perhaps the tories prefer to buy it and act as puppets on strings being manipulated from afar.

Kowtowing to media and press and selling off "dishonours" for favours at the highest price they can get.

The morality of Mafia and corrupt banana republics.

And now the said "leadership" of Con artists as praising one another for their loyalty and hard work while fighting one another like rats in a bag.

Nice to get Cameron booted out and bring in no change.

As Theresa said they do work for the Nasty Party.

Good old Cruella.

But why don't the tories go the whole way and beg Nigel Farage join their party becoming their leader?

A justifiable reward for both sides.