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I can't believe all the doom-mongers that constantly fill up this thread with rubbish. Working in the packaging industry as I do I can see how SEO is being talked about as a Tetrapak in the making. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE NO PROFITS YET, THE LOSSES ARE IN THE HISTORY ITS THE FUTURE THAT IS BRIGHT. We've been saying that since 4p but still people keep posting that it doesn't work and the market cap is too high for no profits. Sorry but that is absolute b****ks IMO. It does work, unless Asda's Tony Ruane is a liar, unless the American enginneers like wasting their time and unless Youngs Bluecrest have allowed libellous RNS's to be put out and they've really had failed trials. The news just gets better and better and Frogpack could be even bigger than RF sealing if marketted properly. When we said on here potential for 50p this year and >1 in future, doom-mongers thought crap but estimates and buy targets keep rising.
Good Luck to all the regulars on here. By the way, sweepstake anyone on when we overtake BPRG sp. I thought SEO would go bust or they would take over SEO.

"SEO is a punt and until it shows profits over a reasonable time will remain so"

ferd1new, i agree.

"At the moment the holders of shares in this company are basically gambling on a seemingly plausible idea.I have a certain sympathy for II and agree there seems to me to be a lot of persistent ramping of this share by a small number of contributors.One doesnt have to feed there egos by responding to them. (Like I am doing now.)"

firstly, who is ramping?

"I am holding shares in this company thinking it will come good but uncertain when!"

same as the rest of us , then!!
as andy just said, we can all read results, we all know the score. seo is jam tomorrow. as was said by myself and andys and others, be cautious if you like and wait for profit and fundamentals to come into play, but be prepared to pay more than todays price. please do not mistake ramping for genuine excitement because some of us have been into seo for a few years and its not every day that one of your shares goes from 4p to 22p in a matter of months. who knows where it could go from here? over exuberence, over excitement, joy...yes! ramping...no!

well said Bos

Nick

Yes well said , i think you now owe the swear box a fiver..JB..

Thats a fiver in the swear box Bos - tut

Baza

deancroft - 13 May'05 - 13:06 - 3985 of 3990

Apologies, but I cannot let the misrepresentation pass by. Previous reference to "Shocking news" and PVC is most unfounded and certainly not appropriate to this thread. Any reference to PVC and food contact equals poison/dioxins. The information in the post is correct but applies to the exterior of packaging that contains food related substances e.g sleeve material around the body of a bottle or bottle top. Sleeve materials lend themselves to be printed and shrunk into position. The use of PVC especially in the food industry is highly regulated. It gives off toxic gas if not disposed of correctly and harmful substances from the wrong type of PVC's can leach into food substances if in contact with such PVC. Certain PVC's are being withdrawn in hospital use where contact is possible with skin or intravenous substances. Where does any of this relate to biodegradeable substances in food packaging that SEO is advocating?? I would like to express my disgust at the continuing misuse of factual info on this thread and make a personal request to our moderators to either research this info for its suitability as I have been able to do so or be responsible in not allowing it to appear on this thread at all. Investors in SEO do so at their own risk, we are all over 18 and hopefully beyond the nanny stage. This is my formal request for you to dispatch our doom and gloom guardian before his efforts become more dire.


Well - you should know that PVC is commonly used in food packaging - and the regulations are in place and PVC has been changed - ever used cling film as an example - ever seen meat in a foam tray with PVC as the wrap on top ?
The article I referred to was that with the changes that have gone on PVC is in fact much improved now.

This extract from a 2005 report.

Some of the additives used in plastics are more likely to migrate than others. The main concern in the past has been in connection with plasticisers which are used to improve the flexibility of some packaging materials. They are used in a range of plastics but particularly in polyvinyl chloride (PVC) films. Since it was recognised that in many PVC food contact situations these plasticisers would migrate, the plastics industry has moved to reformulate various grades of "cling" films to reduce the likelihood of plasticiser migration. There is no evidence that concentrations of plasticiser found thus far in food constitute a risk to human health.

The biodegradeable aspect is that it is claimed that there is a requirement to change away from PVC and go to "more" biodegradable APET and other materials for wrap/lidding. The PVC industry has hit back at what they say is "an attack" on PVC and that PVC today is greatly changed. PVC is still widely used in food packaging - where you are right is that it is regulated more now.

There are two sides to every story and whilst some say PVC is bad others say no problem - Greenpeace would like to ban it completely in food packaging - but they also would like to ban many other things - which you may or may not concur with.

A little copy and paste for you -

PVC
Polyvinyl chloride. It is manufactured
by polymerizing vinyl chloride
monomer. Plasticizers must
be added to give it flexibility.
The structure of this polymer is
relatively tight, but some air will
pass through it. PVC has a heatdistortion
temperature of 1650F
and a maximum continuous service
temperature of 1500F. Because
its shrink and melt points
are so low, PVC can be used to
shrink wrap foods which tolerate
very little heat. It is resistant to
water, acid, bases, some solvents,
fats, and oils. PVC is approved
for use as the film to wrap fresh
red meats because it allows
enough air to pass through the
package to make the meat pigments
bloom bright red. PVC is
Prior Sanctioned for use in general
food contact applications.
The heat-sealing range is from 200
to 3500F. PVC is approved for irradiation
sterilization up to
1 megarad.

My comment was that certain people have been saying in other places that regulations exist or are pending to ban the use of PVC in its "non" biodegradable capacity - I do not see those regulations.

Please read the linked FSIS document and look for -

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/pubs/meatpack.htm

PVC ("polyvinyl chloride")
replaced cellophane as the preferred meat wrapping used in supermarkets; a member of the vinyl family made from a compound found in petroleum. Low cost, protects against moisture loss, but has some oxygen permeability so it allows meat to "bloom" (stay red and fresh looking).

Shrink wrapping
plastic film that shrinks when heated, producing a tight, neat fit; the most popular form of grocery store meat packaging is PVC wrapping with foam trays.


Are you calling the US Food Safety and Inspection Service liars ????????????

Please try to post facts - I will answer all questions - with fact.

A nice steady trickle of buys for a friday afternoon.

Baza

It looks like Don Q 2 has been got rid of because Don Q 1 is still there, shame he did seem a nice boy.
Never mind it wouldn't be a descent share with out its resident Share Basher.

BASHERS NEVER Bash A BAD STOCK

Ramp and spin is not required - orders - profits - revenue will drive a price up - if you have no orders no profit and no revenue - needs some ramp - spin - hype - jam tomorrow to get the price up.

Whats changed order - profit - revenue for SEO today ? Nothing - so what drove the price up a little bit - more ramp - spin - hype - tip ?

Always be wary of a stock rising against RSI !!

Looking good today. Steady flow of buys. My 4 and 6p origianl buys at the start of last year look to have been an excellent investment. I have continued to top up and honestly believe the shares will reach 50p this year.The question many people are wondering is how far/ high the shares can go, there has been wild speculation from 1.50-5.00, personally I would be thinking of cashing in at anywhere around 1.00.

I gain deep happiness from watching us all progressively get proved right on this stock. Bulls 1 : Bears 0

Now guys - lets not get carried away - even if it is the weekend

baza

Baza its only because I've been proved wrong on virtually every other stock in the last two weeks. SEO keeps me sane

ok - let u off then - u r allowed to be happy

Baza

Jacks
I have always maintained 150p within two years from Feb this year, but if some of the other products get going, and RF goes World wide the sp is any ones guess.

Driver 150p would be fantastic and would make a major dent in the mortgage. More than 150p and I would be a hero at home and would expect some serious pampering. Andys would get his pipe and slippers out!!

Felicity, are you still around? I am very sorry if I offended you. You sound very posh, I bet you are not used to industrial language.

Jacks
I wouldn't mind a bit of pampering myself my other half thinks that I am obsessed with shares I probably am if the sp got to 20 I would still trade mind you it would be on a beach some where with a laptop, not in my spare room on a computer that is past its sell buy date.

Jacks
I have never heard it called that before (industrial language) I thought what you used the other day was city language.