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This strategy worked for me yesterday. Killarney 17:20 was a long race - 2m6f handicap hurdle. Whilst in-running plays might be regarded as dangerous, especially in a jump race, the duration of the race could give an opportunity for profit given fast finger work.

I saw that the favourite started a more or less the same odds as the pre-race and thought there might be an opportunity if I could get filled. After running for about 30 seconds the odds started coming in. I backed and got a fill at 3.0 and laid less than 10 seconds later at 1.3. Greened a second or two later in the way that only Pro allows for a very handsome return.

I note that in the subsequent race of similar distance the favourite fell so I could easily have lost my stake but the total exposure was probably no more than 15 seconds of a 5 minute race.

Compound,

It can go either way I assure you. The odds can move so fast when in running you have no chance of exiting a losing position. I do not believe there is a profitable in running strategy. Only a losing one.

Just worked through the Odds on Liverpool vs TNS

Fair value is

Liverpool >1.01!!!
Draw > 96
TNS > 665

Over 2.5 goals >1.11

For Bet Angel users I will post more detail later via MOTD.

The calculations are so wild that I needed to re-write the spreadsheet to cover up to 16 goals for the home team.

Scrip, Thanks for your odds.

Although, I fully expect Liverpool to trounce TNS, I'll be laying them off at the outset. At 1.03/04 the risk is virtually next to nothing! TNS will be up for it and keeping a clean sheet for 30mins will be an achievement!

Bear in mind that Liverpool narrowly beat Wrexham 4-3 last week.

Stranger things have happened! Look at my team ManU who got held 0-0 at home against lowly Exeter last season. I can't remember precise odds but was approx 1.06/07.

There is more potential upside from laying than not. Price would shift quite a bit if TNS were to score for sure.

Price of Liverpool has now shortened to 1.02/03. Just layed them at 1.03.

Grab some before it drifts out again!

Scrip I intended coming on the course on the 7th but for some reason I decided that I could not make it - glad now that I was not in town after all.

But this leads me to ask - is the event to be rescheduled? and if so when?

Scrip

Same thing here. Planning another one soon?

And how about one 'out of town', one where we can drive to? Or do you need a room with a setup that say, has a laptop for each course delegate, sorta kinda?

Ross Comm lovely drifter in the 16:10, 2.50-3.05

There are no plans at the moment for another course. I am discussing the possibility of one but nothing firm at the moment. Please drop an email to pwebb@optic.ltd.uk and I can add you to the interested list and will let you know if something happens.

Dodgy, Rifleman in the 16:40 Bet Angel picked up a volume spike of 253k! Surely a dodgy trade.

What a day this is turning out to be. Favourite at 1.32 beaten.

Only been trading the last hr - prob the best days racing for trading for ages and im losing!!!! had 2 shockers - not focussed enough so turning off for a while - may have a look at the later evening racing as several meets tonight

Liverpool 1-0 up. Come on TNS!!

2-0 up and kissed goodbye to the Liverpool lay!

Having promised to sit on my hands I now have 2 on TNS at 1000:1. Now all I want is a decent set-play in TNS favour - not expecting a goal :-)

This was wierd today I grabbed a screen shot of it after I recovered from the surprise. Fortunately as I also recommend I was out of the market at this point.

Scrip

did rifleman Score ?

fundy --------- fwiw,
COMMENTS IN RUNNING
UTTOXETER 4:40 2 Rifleman
always prominent, joined leader 4 out, led and clear next, headed 2 out, no extra last

Been playing with the Woods hole by hole market this morning. Good fun.