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Traders Thread & Thoughts - Monday 12th January (DXNS)     

Crocodile - 11 Jan 2004 12:09

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Addeco Europe's leading employment agency delays 2003 results due to 'accounting issues'

J Sainsbury said its underlying UK sales growth was just 0.1 percent in its third quarter as major investment in systems and distribution centres disrupted sales. The performance of the UK's third biggest supermarket chain by market share is likely to fall well short of its rivals such as William Morrison which reported a 10.2 percent growth in the last six weeks. Sainsbury suffered a 0.2 percent drop in like-for-like sales in the second quarter, and analysts had hoped sales would rise by as much as 1.2 percent this time.

Davis has also conceded that the retailer will need to cut prices in the summer to keep up with low cost rivals such as Tesco, second-ranked Asda WMT.N and Morrison.

Standard Life says its in talks with the FSA ???

Pace Micro said it swung to a first-half pre-tax profit from a loss a year earlier, as it shipped more digital TV set-top boxes in Asia Pacific and continental Europe. They said profit for the 26 weeks to November 29 totalled 1.1 million pounds from a loss of 15.9 million pounds a year

Ted Baker fashion chain said sales for the Christmas trading period were 23.7 percent up on the previous year and retail gross margins were in line with those achieved last year. The firm added it remained confident of a positive outcome for the full year.

SIG Plc Europe's biggest distributor of insulation products said it expected to post 2003 profits ahead of market expectations, on the back of record sales. "Record sales achieved in excess of 1.26 billion pounds an increase of nine percent on prior year," it added.

Photo-Me International photo-booth firm reported an eleven-fold rise in first-half profits on Monday and said results for 2003/04 would beat market forecasts.

TBI Uk airport operator said the number of passengers passing through its four European airports rose 16.2 percent in the third quarter of its financial year. It has recently attracted bid interest from Germany's biggest building firm Hochtief

Mentmore storage services firm said it had received a number of other approaches after it said last month it had received one bid approach.

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ThePlayboy - 11 Jan 2004 12:19 - 4 of 29

MONDAY FTSE PP

R2 4520
R1 4493
PP 4469
S1 4442
S2 4418

Close was below Fri s1, 2 day ftse chart targeting 4440 on cont weakness if dow does not hold 10525 tonight, brk up our of the downtrend at 4470 to target 4490! For next week i can see a test of 4400 the bottom of the uptrend channel since April, on a brk of my LT sig line at 4450, max upside limited to 4490/500 short term imho!

ThePlayboy - 11 Jan 2004 12:21 - 5 of 29

Updated 1/9 for Monday's market.
Key DOW Levels for 1/12
UP Above 10,525
DN Below 10,450

Channel Break
Dow breaks lower channel boundary, sells off to Close.

From prior commentary, "...we will continue to monitor the lower boundary of the steep channel, as a clear and solid break of the line will fuel a large retracement..."
The Dow broke the lower boundary of the channel early in the session, but was not able to follow through to the downside. The Dow traded quietly sideways the remainder of the session before finally getting another sharp sell-off, this time smashing through the lower channel boundary to force a 132 point loss for the day, seen in the 15 and 60 Minute Charts.

The downside break of the steep channel implies a likely retracement, one that is overdue at this point. However, the index will likely form a continuation pattern at the lows before direction either way is seen. Look for the index to consolidate at the lows Monday. Such a consolidation will give us clues to future direction.

A downside break below 10,450 will indicate a continuation lower, while a solid break back above 10,500 will spark strength.

Short Term Dow

Short term, the Dow has formed an expanding triangle at the lows of the 1 Minute Chart, which implies weakness for Monday's Open. Watch 10,480 for strength, and 10,450 for short term direction.

Medium Term Dow

In the medium term, we entered the market Short this afternoon at 10,497 and are still in the market. We will continue to hold stops at the entry to allow wiggle room for the index. We will stay Short below 10,450, and will look for Longs above 10,525, with 20 point stops.

NASDAQ & S&P

The NASDAQ got a round trip session today, while the S&P traded lower and higher before finally settling for a sharp decline. The lower boundary of the channels are beginning to give way, which implies the retracement will likely be extended Monday. *

Summary

The Dow sold off heavily this morning, but didn't really get going until late in the session, in which the index smashed through the lower channel boundary. The downside break from the channel implies further downside movement, but look for the index to remain within the overall long term uptrend.


Crocodile - 11 Jan 2004 12:33 - 6 of 29

Thanks TP, Are you coming to the Traders day on the 29th?
D.

little woman - 11 Jan 2004 19:04 - 7 of 29

Evening all

mmmmmmmmmmmmm see you at market open.

Melnibone - 11 Jan 2004 19:26 - 8 of 29

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Good evening.

Looks to me like we are in a 4 day downtrend channel that had
a spike higher on Thursday.

We should gap open lower on Monday, CMC spread already down
to 4450 which was the top of the old 6 month uptrend channel.

I agree with TP that a test of 4400 is likely in the next few days.
We should hit S1 at 4442 early on, and S2 at 4418 is pretty
close to the round figure support at 4400, so we may test it as
early as tomorrow.

Can't really see this bounce to over 4600 by Tuesday that folk
have been talking about.

Will be careful about getting too agressive with any shorts. The
trend is still firmly up, until it changes, and IMHO any downside
will be treated as a natural retracement until proved otherwise.

My P@F chart doesn't indicate a possible change in trend until
4150 is convincingly breached.

See you all tomorrow.

Melnibone.

Crocodile - 11 Jan 2004 23:37 - 9 of 29

Thanks TOM :-)



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ThePlayboy - 12 Jan 2004 07:15 - 10 of 29

Croc-loved the simplicity of the above chart:)

Re-traders meet just a question of getting the time, will try, if I can will post on the thread.

Crocodile - 12 Jan 2004 07:37 - 11 of 29

Thanks TP, from our friend Tom Hoogard
Morning all!

Douggie - 12 Jan 2004 08:24 - 12 of 29

mornin all

little woman - 12 Jan 2004 08:37 - 13 of 29

Morning all

Melnibone - 12 Jan 2004 08:53 - 14 of 29

Morning all,

Nice chart Croc.

I see 4450 is acting as the support at the moment.
I think, not sure without checking, that the last time
that the US had a big down day on a Friday that it took
it back again on the Monday.

No real market moving data out today, so it's possible that
the US will not follow through with another down move today.
So perhaps FTSE will just wobble around a bit until the US
does its thing.
Oil stocks did the damage last week, but they don't look that
weak today, and they are a big influence on the FTSE.

Melnibone.


little woman - 12 Jan 2004 09:09 - 15 of 29

L2 is playing up today, so I'm not going to trade(except for the small short FTSE which I may close soon.)

Chance to actually do some work today!

Melnibone - 12 Jan 2004 09:25 - 16 of 29

Picked some longer term SHEL up this morning.

I can't bring myself to ignore a 73 pence gap with
BP. as well as that huge gap on the chart that will
need filling at some point.
Also, the yield has gone back above 4%.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 12 Jan 2004 09:53 - 17 of 29

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AZN still coming down nicely since I last mentioned it.

If it keeps dropping I've got support at 2550. If it breaks
that then it should suffer a nice tank down.
(no idea if it will break it, by the way.)

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 12 Jan 2004 10:28 - 18 of 29

Keep having to stop myself treating my SHEL trade
as a day trade and take profits, so I'm logging off
to stop myself.

See you all when the US opens.

Melnibone.

Crocodile - 12 Jan 2004 11:20 - 19 of 29

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Melnibone - 12 Jan 2004 14:47 - 20 of 29

Afternoon all,

FTSE 4450 still just holding.

Still in SHEL Testex. I want more than a couple of pence
scalp out of this one.

Melnibone.

little woman - 12 Jan 2004 15:03 - 21 of 29

closed my short FTSE, now short DJ

Melnibone - 12 Jan 2004 15:05 - 22 of 29

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HSBA starting to look interesting.
At 870p it's only about 8p above the last higher low in the
middle of December.

Need to watch where the FTSE drops to. If the FTSE retraces
too far, HSBA could break that low and head off towards 840p.
The problem with that, would be that HSBA had turned from higher
highs and higher lows, to lower highs and lower lows.

Interesting times.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 12 Jan 2004 15:09 - 23 of 29

S@P has closed the gap open higher.
Now, hopefully, it will give the direction that it wants
to go before the FTSE closes.

Melnibone.
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