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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 30 Jun 2016 17:37 - 4006 of 12628

Tory leadership support from Conservative MPs so far declared

Haystack - 30 Jun 2016 17:47 - 4007 of 12628

The web site

http://www.theresa2016.co.uk/

was registered on 28 June 2016

cynic - 30 Jun 2016 18:09 - 4008 of 12628

fred - what an extraordinarily bitter old man you are ...... life in your household really must be a complete bundle of laughs

Haystack - 30 Jun 2016 18:10 - 4009 of 12628

Laughs and fred in the same sentence?

MaxK - 30 Jun 2016 18:11 - 4010 of 12628

If the con plp elect May, they've lost me.

Ye gods, are they feckin mad?

Haystack - 30 Jun 2016 18:16 - 4011 of 12628

There are rumours that there is an internal plot to have any one but Gove now. They are not impressed with the way he knifed Boris. You may or may not remember that Michael Heseltine knifed Thatcher and was the big loser in the leadership campaign. Irrespective of other considerations, knifing an apparent friend is bad form.

If he doesn't win then he has probably fatally damaged his career.

Haystack - 30 Jun 2016 18:24 - 4012 of 12628

Theresa May said this morning that Leave means leave and she will invoke article 50.

Haystack - 30 Jun 2016 18:26 - 4013 of 12628

Tweet from Adam Boulton

Early impressions at this stage Gove has overreached may not make it into last 2. May the one to beat.

Haystack - 30 Jun 2016 18:28 - 4014 of 12628

Gove may have underestimated the feeling against him for knifing Boris

Tweet from Conservative MP, retweeted by Andrew Neil

Tory MP: there is a very deep pit reserved in hell for Michael Gove

MaxK - 30 Jun 2016 18:31 - 4015 of 12628

You can post positives about May all you want Haystack, but what you cant post is May saying out before the vote.

Fred1new - 30 Jun 2016 18:40 - 4016 of 12628

Manuel,

Thank you.

I consider my "personal" life quite satisfactory and happy. My family, in general, also seem very happy.

Also, I consider that I have been very lucky over a lifetime.

What I posted is being repeated in different ways by many previous tory party members who are disgusted by the antics of the present tory cabal.

Politics as a whole in this country seems to many to be at its lowest level of decency for many years.

Brought into the limelight the unnecessary referendum and blatant opportunism by the party leadership elections following it.

Farmyard morality.

The morality of the market applies.

cynic - 30 Jun 2016 18:42 - 4017 of 12628

from what i have seen, TM is one of few who has the spine and strength of character to do a most unenviable job very well

cynic - 30 Jun 2016 18:44 - 4018 of 12628

fred - i strongly recommend that you emigrate to a country that is more in tune with you, for clearly this one is not

grannyboy - 30 Jun 2016 18:49 - 4019 of 12628

Hooo be careful, Fred's a first generation immigrant, he'l be crying racist next.

Haystack - 30 Jun 2016 18:52 - 4020 of 12628

MaxK
Theresa May has always been for Remain. She said prior to the referendum that we should cut immigration.

Haystack - 30 Jun 2016 19:00 - 4021 of 12628

I knew fred was an alien, maybe he/she/it should return to Mars.

Fred1new - 30 Jun 2016 19:03 - 4022 of 12628

Granny's boy.

If the cap fits wear it.

Haystack - 30 Jun 2016 19:20 - 4023 of 12628

Gove said to Sky News recently, "I will write in my blood on parchment that I will not run for PM". Previously he has said that he was not temperamentally suitable to be PM and could not do it. Those videos will return to haunt him.

Haystack - 30 Jun 2016 19:35 - 4024 of 12628

Sky snap poll gives May more support in the public than all other candidates combined. If you get May then you can blame it on Gove.

cynic - 30 Jun 2016 21:50 - 4025 of 12628

as i wrote previously, i think TM could well prove an excellent choice ..... certainly better that MG who has no appeal to any other than perhaps his wife

on the other hand, i'ld happily join the labour party to vote for that prize pillock corbyn ...... not only is he a complete laughing stock, but he has managed to drag the labour party to the same depths
fred will no doubt tell us all yet again that he's the dog's bollocks
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