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- 04 Apr 2008 22:45
Another newcomer to the main market...anybody any idea what the production figures are ?
TANKER
- 22 Mar 2011 08:52
- 403 of 593
funds would be buying this at 300p IF it was true of 400p plus bid
cynic
- 22 Mar 2011 09:00
- 404 of 593
on the other hand HOIL most assuredly have found a truly massive gas field, so the fundamentals aren't all crap either
TANKER
- 22 Mar 2011 09:10
- 405 of 593
i only stated that if there was a bidder the SP would not be at around 300p .
dealerdear
- 22 Mar 2011 09:15
- 406 of 593
I don't agree with a lot of what you say but in this instance I agree. If there was a chance HOIL was going to get taken out at 400p + then the sp wouldn't be dropping now. I suspect it was a way of boosting the price to enable some to get out. Several companies have used this strategy over the past.
Fortunately I was in at the time so it did me a big favour!
IMO
goldfinger
- 22 Mar 2011 09:17
- 407 of 593
Lot of crap talked about funds and their workings, policies etc.
Often more than not it comes down to their portfolio management just like the PI, I should know I worked for Shore Capital for 3 years in my earlier days and was in touch with fund managers on a daily basis.
The last broker reco of about 460p forget who it was now, its up above gave a fair some of the parts and overall of the business with the gas rather than oil included.
Nothing added in for specualtive take over talk.
goldfinger
- 22 Mar 2011 09:20
- 408 of 593
By the way if nobody noticed theirs quite a bit of red around, awaiting inflation results in 10 mins.
goldfinger
- 22 Mar 2011 09:22
- 409 of 593
Here we are.......
18/03/11
Brokers note from Evolution Today.
In our current sum of the parts model for Heritage we estimate that Heritages
core value is 193p/sh based on own cash on the balance at YE plus its Russian
assets based on their CPR value (in the December 2009 circular). This excludes
the cash held in escrow (61p/sh) pending the outcome of the CGT dispute with
the Ugandan government (which looks close to being resolved now Tullow has
signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the Government of Uganda) and
before we factor in any risked upside from the exploration potential offshore
Malta, Tanzania, Mali or in Pakistan.
In effect, if we ignore the escrow account and risked exploration upside the
implication is that the market is factoring in just 97p/sh for Miran, implying pretty
much the most bearish case in our modelling (less we assume no monetisation at
all). If we add back the escrow account cash then the implied value for Miran all
but disappears (36p/sh). Hence we believe it is important to fully model Miran to
see the valuation implications.
Our new fair value for Heritage is 467p/sh. This is based on a core value of
193p/sh, 61p/sh for cash held in the escrow account and 212p/sh for Miran where
we have assumed a pre-development sale of the asset at a 20% discount to our
DCF valuation. Our 467p/sh target price no longer assumes any risked exploration
upside from Malta, Tanzania, Mali or Pakistan. So even with this conservative
approach to the valuation, investors still have a 64% upside to the current price.
goldfinger
- 22 Mar 2011 09:23
- 410 of 593
No talk of a take over factored in to that broker report.
HARRYCAT
- 22 Mar 2011 09:28
- 411 of 593
Surely the arbitrage guys would be falling over themselves if a bid was genuinely a possibility? I have heard nothing from them, only press speculation.
goldfinger
- 22 Mar 2011 09:37
- 412 of 593
Who cares about a bid.
The stock is way undervalued.
cynic
- 22 Mar 2011 09:40
- 413 of 593
never buy on rumours of a t/o ..... they are often false, and it is also far from uncommon for a tabled bid to fall apart during process
HARRYCAT
- 22 Mar 2011 09:40
- 414 of 593
The earlier comment from a broker sums it up, imo:
"The reason for the fall is that a 170km gas pipeline would need to be built to transport the gas which could cost around $1bn. Also production is not expected until 2015. But chiefly it is because the market wanted oil and it got gas."
So why is it undervalued and why is it a possible t/o target?
cynic
- 22 Mar 2011 09:45
- 415 of 593
because nuclear power programmes will now been delayed while the fallout (sorry about that!) from the japanese experience is digested and new safety precautions devised and implemented ...... that implies that gas will be in greater demand as it's simple and clean ..... it also happens that the HOIL gas field is massive, and the market, though often or even usually right, seems to have missed the point
goldfinger
- 22 Mar 2011 10:14
- 416 of 593
Buyers coming back in now. NICE
goldfinger
- 22 Mar 2011 10:42
- 417 of 593
Intraday reversal. Blue on IG Index now.
TANKER
- 22 Mar 2011 12:20
- 418 of 593
gold they have on several accasions given out the same info on other companys nothing come of these . look at sainsbury they have had several bids but still no one has bid . my self i think it is still a good to hold thiis share
goldfinger
- 22 Mar 2011 13:07
- 419 of 593
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TANKER - 22 Mar 2011 08:07 - 397 of 418
back to 270p soon be aware......... ends.
Are u sure your not wanting to try to load up on the cheap ????????????????????
TANKER
- 22 Mar 2011 13:22
- 420 of 593
yes i would love too
goldfinger
- 22 Mar 2011 13:29
- 421 of 593
So you are admitting that you have tried a ramp here then?.
Dont forget the FSA are getting really tough on this now. Advfn have had a marked increase in court orders i read going back to those oilys where de-rampers were at play.
Any way Ive filtered you. I dont mind the next man talking a stock down or shorting it as long as hes genuine in what hes doing and he can provide back up, but you have done neither and your last 2 posts are what should be avoided by all posters.
TANKER
- 22 Mar 2011 13:41
- 422 of 593
i have not ramped i just said yes i would like to get them at 270p and do not think that a bid is coming . my thoughts