Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Just to make the NI process clear, here is the big issue's own guidance and tells you that you will need a proof of identity interview at the job centre.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://equality.uk.com/The_Big_Issue_files/Factsheet%2520Self-employment%2520and%2520working%2520with%2520The%2520Big%2520Issue.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiNkZua0OrLAhWBHxQKHe5eBvkQFgg1MAc&usg=AFQjCNFuYcQRivvvHevWbpU5i48ltYsgbQ&sig2=4Ron9G_kxlX1w3ReUmOprA

VIC it looks like Hays will make radical quotes and then shy away from them ,don't expect an answer.
At least most on here with any view will try and justify what they said and whether you agree or not that is fine.

Haystack loves Dave, and will not go against Dave's wishes.

What to expect at the 'Evidence of identity' interview

The interview will usually be one-to-one (unless, for example, you need an interpreter). You will be asked questions about why you need a National Insurance number, your background and circumstances.

You will also have to prove your identity. Bring as many 'identity documents' (originals, not photocopies) as you can to your interview. Examples of documents which count are:

valid passport (UK or foreign)
national identity card (UK or foreign)
residence permit or residence card including biometric immigration residency documents
full birth or adoption certificate
full marriage or civil partnership certificate
driving licence (UK or foreign)

Hays you have made yourself look rather stupid ,or do you now wish you had not called people the lowest common denominator ?

how do you then explain the huge difference between the official number of immigrants and the NI Numbers issued?

By and large, UKIP ARE the lowest common denominator. That is not to say that all the supporters are, just most of them.

There are a number of technical reasons for the NI number mismatches. I read a long list of them recently.

How do you explain the unemployment count versus the social security costs?

German Unemployment Unchanged as Migrants Bolster Workforce
March snaps run of five monthly declines in number out of work
Jobless rate remains at record-low level of 6.2 percent

German joblessness was unchanged in March, snapping a run of five consecutive declines, in a sign that Europe’s largest economy may be struggling to absorb a wave of refugees.

Europe's Refugee Crisis
The number of people out of work held at a seasonally adjusted 2.73 million, data from the Federal Labor Agency in Nuremberg showed on Thursday. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg predicted a decline of 6,000. The jobless rate stayed at a record-low 6.2 percent.
Germany admitted more than 1 million migrants in 2015 alone, increasing the pool of potential workers. While companies have been hiring, they’re simultaneously having to deal with a China-led slowdown in emerging markets that’s curbing exports and posing a risk to the euro area’s fragile recovery.
“For this year in general, we expect a rise in the unemployment figure due to the large inflow of refugees we have seen over the last year,” said Johannes Gareis, an economist at Natixis in Frankfurt. The refugees “can’t be integrated easily into the German labor market.”

One reason for NI mismatches is that NI numbers can be preallocated to EU members coming to the UK before they arrive.

By and large, UKIP ARE the lowest common denominator. That is not to say that all the supporters are, just most of them.
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Thanks for clarifying that Hays .

by a few 000,000?

There certainly more immigrants here than the stats show. They were only counting at 3 airports in the UK and only a couple of ports. It seems to be poor stats from the ONS than any attempt to disguise the figures. If the figures actually showed higher numbers of immigrants the government could not cover them up as the ONS is an independent body that doesn't take orders from government.

Sorry A bit of a long link to tap in but...

telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10652199/six-out-of-10- Romanians-and-Bulgarian-immigrants-claim-self-employment/

Excuse my ignorance don't know anything about self employment , just remember someone I new said that I paid more tax in one month than he paid all year . So they get help these people to wreck our economy .

Romania and Bulgaria are in the EU since 2007 and their citizens can get NI numbers. There is nothing wrong with that. They have virtually the same rights as UK citizens.

A quote from that Telegraph article...From Migrationwatch UK


Sir Andrew Green, Chairman of Migrationwatch UK, said "This clearly indicates that a significant number of Romanians and Bulgarians have avoided the restrictions placed on them in recent years.

This has not only allowed them to work here but has given them full access to the welfare state"

They were joined as members in 2007, but they were supposed to be restricted in coming to the UK until 2014 i believe....

So you're wrong once again...

From the start of 2014 there were no restrictions. Prior to that they could come and not work. They could also come before 2014 if they were picking fruit on a temporary basis or their employer sponsored them.