goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
hilary
- 15 May 2014 12:14
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Of course the Conservatives will win the general election, it's just a matter of debate as to whether they'll get an overall majority. The UKIP vote in the European elections is nothing more than a protest because the public have a right to a referendum and there'll be hell to pay if they don't get one.
When it comes to the general election, however, Millibland is an unelectable accident waiting to happen, and the Tories will UKIP-ise their own policies in the run-up to the election whilst, at the same, smear and discredit UKIP as a bunch of racists and bigots. UKIP will end up getting the Labour vote, and the Tories will ignore UKIP and return to vote Tory because they know damn well that UKIP won't get any seats and they'll be too scared of letting Labour in through the back door. With some luck, Scotland will leave the union and that will pave the way for overall Conservative majorities for the next 50 years once the red jocks no longer have any say.
cynic
- 15 May 2014 12:16
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your very brave .... hope you're wearing armour like jean d'arc, but equally that you do not find yourself being burnt at the stake :-)
Haystack
- 15 May 2014 12:16
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Tell it like it is!!!!
goldfinger
- 15 May 2014 12:21
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Latest Polls.........SMIRK...........I hope you Tories enjoyed your 2 days at the top.......smirk again.
electionista @electionista ·
UK - YouGov #EP2014 poll:
LAB 28%
UKIP 25%
CON 22%
LDEM 10%
GRN 10%
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electionista @electionista ·
UK - Ipsos MORI poll:
LAB 34%
CON 31%
UKIP 11%
LDEM 9%
GRN 8%
hilary
- 15 May 2014 12:21
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Oh, and for anybody who thinks Cameron should resign if the jocks do vote to leave the union, they're wrong. He should be knighted!!!
doodlebug4
- 15 May 2014 12:23
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Well I'm a "jock" ( not a red one ) now living in England and I don't have a say anyway ! As a matter of interest, I don't know why English people can't vote to say whether or not they want Scotland to gain independence. :-)
goldfinger
- 15 May 2014 12:28
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Political Equations
15
Thursday
May 2014
Posted by Mike Sivier
I’ve had a look at these and I think they’re right.
Would any mathematicians like to add any equations of their own?
Can you solve these political equations?
David Cameron - Nick Clegg = 0
Ed Miliband x David Cameron = David Miliband
Alex Salmond³ - Scotland = Nigel Farage
Tuition Fees + (Nick Clegg x Pledge) = Tuition Fees²
Nick Clegg + Pledge = Pledge x 0
√ Nigel Farage = Enoch Powell
Tory Party ÷ Europe = Ed Miliband + Nr 10
Nigel Farage - Public School = Nick Griffin
Lib Dems - Nick Clegg ≥ Lib Dems + Nick Clegg
Nigel Farage - EU = 0
IDS ± Frog = Cock³
NHS x (David Cameron + Nick Clegg) = NHS x 0
Bankers + (Bonus³) = Recession³
Boris - Hair = Ken + (London Mayor x 2)
Chris Grayling = C*nt x ∞
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Shortie
- 15 May 2014 12:59
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I can't stand Cameron or Milliband or even that ginger twat from the Lib-Dems (forgotton his name and can't be bothered to google)... Its no wonder people don't bother to vote when this is the best that we have.
cynic
- 15 May 2014 13:05
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i understand why so many are totally disillusioned with the present bunch of politicians, but if you want to live in a democracy, i think you have an obligation to vote
goldfinger
- 15 May 2014 13:06
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Yep and I agree. Well said shortie.
Id like to see a Tory party with Mike Portilio as the leader backed by Ken Clarke and John Redwood but unfortunately and I still havent got my head around this, we voted in a set of posh boys from Eton who havent the slighest clue how normal working people carry out their Lifes.
Its a silly position we are in, although I note Camoron didnt win the last G/election and wont win the upcoming one either so their is light at the end of the tunnel.
cynic
- 15 May 2014 13:13
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sticky - do you think we all have an obligation to vote?
Shortie
- 15 May 2014 13:17
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I agree Cynic, I should vote, its my responsibility to help elect a government. But right now I see no point in voting as my options for candidate and party are all the same. Whoever I vote for doesn't have policies that I really want. I'll just help elect a party that I don't want but can't moan about because I either voted for them or didn't vote at all.... In simple terms my options are Fish & Chips, Fish & Chips or Fish & Chips, I only really get to choose the amount of salt and vinegar that gets sprinkled ontop.
cynic
- 15 May 2014 13:21
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so choose the least worst between huss (dogfish), skate (on thin ice) and battered saveloy (recovered meat sausage) :-)
Shortie
- 15 May 2014 13:27
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I will also say that to call this country a "democracy" is a total joke. We like to think that we're Democratic and have choice but its the biggest illusion countless governments have used to control the people of this country.
You may have a vote, you may have a say, but is it really a vote if all the voting possibilities lead to the same end result anyway..
cynic
- 15 May 2014 13:30
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if you lived under a dictatorship, you might have a different view
would you rather have PR, leading to perpetual weak gov't?
Shortie
- 15 May 2014 13:48
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No I'd rather have an open government with simple policies that were accountable.
goldfinger
- 15 May 2014 14:08
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Yep but Shortie you have to pay for salt and vinegar on your Fish and Chips around here now. In the past it was free.
Now what does that tell you.!!!!
Shortie
- 15 May 2014 14:17
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Erm, I'm better off still living in the South of England as its still free??? Sometimes though we do get charged for ketchup
MaxK
- 15 May 2014 14:31
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Apocalypse worsens
Posted on May 15, 2014 by Rev. Stuart Campbell
http://wingsoverscotland.com/apocalypse-worsens/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=apocalypse-worsens
Monday:
“On the basis of independent analysis, the UK Government has estimated that an average annual mortgage payment in Scotland could increase by £1,700.”
(UK government “factsheet” issued by the Scotland Office.)
Wednesday:
“For the average mortgage in Scotland, there would be £5,400 more [in] mortgage payments a year.”
(George Osborne to the Scottish Affairs Select Committee.)
Yikes! What the hell happened on Tuesday?
Of course, a 217% rise in the official UK government scare figure in the space of 48 hours doesn’t mean anything actually changed. It just means that the Treasury pulled both figures out of its backside at random because they don’t even respect you enough to get their lies straight.
There is no conceivable reason for anyone’s mortgage to go up at all in an independent Scotland. Mortgages are not a national transaction, they’re an individual one – the bank’s lending money to YOU, not to Scotland. Mortgage rates would continue to be based on the Bank of England base rate, which would continue to be set exactly as it is now and on exactly the same principles, which have nothing to do with mortgages.
(Any bank which attempted to unilaterally increase rates for Scottish customers alone would, obviously, be committing commercial suicide. It would clearly have no possible defensible reason for doing so – you didn’t just become a worse risk because your government changed – and not only would mortgage customers go elsewhere but ordinary banking customers in Scotland would desert in protest. And banks care about profits, not politics.)
We’ve said it before and we have no doubt that we’ll have cause to say it many more times before September – this is how little the Unionist parties think of you. This is how stupid they think you are.
goldfinger
- 15 May 2014 14:31
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Well Ill tell you shortie, it means they are hell bent on privatising everything and charging for it.
Take the NHS if this Tory lot got in again with a majority Id give them 5 years and the whole NHS would be in private hands sold off at knock down price to their chums from the past or in the city.
An institution the envy of the world sold off to private gruby hands.
And that would just be the start.