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Clinton Cards (CC.)     

philstott - 04 Dec 2003 13:09

Does anyone know why the shares have fallen today despite Christmas coming, past year's increased trading and new stores opened?

mitzy - 13 Jan 2011 08:41 - 41 of 63

I'm not buying this till March.

XSTEFFX - 13 Jan 2011 12:43 - 42 of 63

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=CC.&Si

Stan - 13 Jan 2011 12:51 - 43 of 63

"I'm not buying this till March."

I'm not buying Mitzy -):

mitzy - 13 Jan 2011 13:40 - 44 of 63

lol Stan..

mitzy - 07 Oct 2011 13:33 - 45 of 63

Chimp share to buy.

skinny - 07 Oct 2011 13:33 - 46 of 63

For a banana ? :-)

mitzy - 07 Oct 2011 13:34 - 47 of 63

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=CC.&Si

lol skinny.

last time it eas 5p it hit 50p within 12 months.

mitzy - 13 Oct 2011 11:09 - 48 of 63

Off again when will it finish.

skinny - 13 Oct 2011 11:13 - 49 of 63

As I said in post 37 - I can't believe they are still around!

mitzy - 13 Oct 2011 12:29 - 50 of 63

I may buy @5p whether they can go to 50p again its 50/50.

mitzy - 18 Oct 2011 11:01 - 51 of 63

Big faller today.

Juzzle - 27 Oct 2011 07:42 - 52 of 63

Bad results this morning. Having to buy in cards (many from Hallmark), while rivals design and print their own, makes it impossible for Clinton to compete.

skinny - 27 Oct 2011 07:46 - 53 of 63

I'm surprised that sales only fell 2.9% - they are an 80's throw back.

mitzy - 22 Dec 2011 08:38 - 54 of 63

High street drop-out.

mnamreh - 09 May 2012 08:37 - 55 of 63

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skinny - 09 May 2012 08:47 - 56 of 63

Well shock horror (not)!

mnamreh - 09 May 2012 08:48 - 57 of 63

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Scripophilist - 09 May 2012 09:37 - 58 of 63

If you read the detail, this looks like a very sharp move by American Greetings go for vertical integration and get a cheap football in the UK retail space. Clintons and their shareholders have been done over.

AG approach RBS, read covenants, realise it's a good way to pick them up on the cheap. RBS are happy to offload debt, AG but debt and force administration.

Next move AG approach administrators to 'save' business.

Very smart move, ethical way to do business? Not so sure. BUt then maybe they shouldn't have carried that debt?

hangon - 09 May 2012 17:25 - 59 of 63

Frankly I'm surprised it's legal.... but what do I know?
If you buy the debt, presumably you expect it will be repiad at the same rate/term as originally set out. Otherwise any good business could be ruined by calling-in an agreed loan on a whim at any inconvenient moment.

Isn't this the same - the new owner of the debt is ratting on the Terms, for their own adjenda..... seems to me Clinton should go to Court and insist the Terms are adhered top or face a penalty (for example the repayment at a low-ratio, like 1p/£ since this is an aggravated calling).
Clearly the new owner (of the CC debt) has never had any intention of letting the debt run its course.

All large companies have some debt, usually it's to tide them over and is repaid on a regular basis. Then there is L-T debt, where new infrastructure (like an factory) is required abd the terms are agree, maybe being repaid over 25 years as suits both parties. I suspect, but don't know, that CC had to raise money to perform a retail restructure and that this would have come good when the Ecomony returns . . . . naturally, I shall be walking into every Carlton Card shop wherever I see them in the UK....buying my fill of their cards almost without a thought.

mitzy - 09 May 2012 21:53 - 60 of 63

Another one bites the dust.
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