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RTD - Why? (RTD)     

Nitefly - 15 Sep 2003 10:55

Why are we again at 10.5p bid?

It doesn't add up...

Good Results + Strong buying pre results + Christmas online buying soon = Price drop

Then again some companies that have debt for equity hanging in the balance, poor results and bankruptcy around the corner and they go up!

Why sell now at a loss?

Wont that be a kick in the teeth when we see 13.5p 14p again!

Best of luck all.

Douggie - 05 Dec 2003 18:41 - 410 of 2406

have I missed some bad news? lot of folk decided they dont want to be with us anymore :-(

overgrowth - 06 Dec 2003 17:15 - 411 of 2406

Douggie - on the contrary - nothing but good news, however this will not set the price on fire until the next formal results.

Lots of traders thought the price would shift much more in the short term (i.e. a couple of weeks), now it looks as though it's topped out for short-term traders they are getting out and moving on to the next shares which are expected to rise phenomenally in a short timescale.

I'm in RTD with a large position for the long term as all the pointers to significant growth are now on the horizon.

debuwebu - 07 Dec 2003 08:53 - 412 of 2406

Many people are indicating on here that they are now in for the long term. Exactly how long are we talking? Until after March? / 6 months? /1 year? / longer?

rasool - 07 Dec 2003 10:37 - 413 of 2406

I see a letter of 'complaint' in the Times on Saturday (page 2 of money section) - Customer complains RBS allows him only ONE card-not-present transaction per day due to security concerns. Severely hampers his internet shopping !

The RBS customer careline had advised this chap that he should either buy everything at once or spread his purchaes out !!

He ends by saying " It seems to me that if this security policy is widespread it will cause credit card customers a good deal of annoyance and extra hassle when they begin their Christmas Shopping"


Sounds like they need a little help from RTD...

overgrowth - 07 Dec 2003 22:25 - 414 of 2406

debuwebu,

I believe that RTD has the potential to become at least a 5 bagger within a year once the bigger fish come on board - it's difficult to predict this - could be as early as the end of Q1 next year or more likely Q3/Q4.

For this to happen the investors with the serious money need to be convinced that the recent turn around in fortunes for RTD is sustainable rather than just a flash in the pan.

We could see 14p very quickly simply based on Christmas internet sales figures and if there is a mad rush of T10 traders at results time, then the price could go to 20p+ and then drop back on short term profit taking.

When RTD move above 25p, I'll probably sell half of my holding, and the rest I will leave for at least a couple of years (or more) - provided that all the evidence shows that the company is on the right track.

Douggie - 08 Dec 2003 08:56 - 415 of 2406

good to hear positive news/views, this beenasked befor who are T10 traders?

blakester - 08 Dec 2003 11:36 - 416 of 2406

Why the drop today?

apple - 08 Dec 2003 11:46 - 417 of 2406

blakester,

Look at the trades.

Lots of small shareholders selling before 9:45am total 330,000 sold

THEN at 9:48am to 9:58am

the big boys moved in & BOUGHT 450,000

They want your shares so they are hoping you will sell.





blakester - 08 Dec 2003 12:05 - 418 of 2406

Thanks Apple.

planttec - 08 Dec 2003 12:17 - 419 of 2406

dougie
T10 traders are those who buy stock and have 10 days before settlement for the trade is due.
many trade this way on stock that they feel will increase in value over that period. They then sell before the deadline and pocket the profit without ever having to pay for the stock.

Douggie - 08 Dec 2003 12:30 - 420 of 2406

thanks for info. planttec often seen T10 refered to seems a nice way to trade!

apple - 08 Dec 2003 15:28 - 421 of 2406

Oh Look,

They've now raised the Bid price a little bit after trying to worry people a little bit earlier on.

Are they trying to tempt some more small shareholders to sell or am I just being far too Cynical?

jules99 - 08 Dec 2003 15:37 - 422 of 2406

Plantec hope all is well...?

overgrowth - 08 Dec 2003 21:46 - 423 of 2406

Lots of healthy buys coming through today - RTD should be back up again tomorrow.

blakester - 09 Dec 2003 12:07 - 424 of 2406

No upside today :-(

Douggie - 09 Dec 2003 12:45 - 425 of 2406

:-(( D.

blakester - 09 Dec 2003 14:49 - 426 of 2406

Down she goes (again)...

scotinvestor - 09 Dec 2003 14:52 - 427 of 2406

RTD is so frustrating to hold but thankfully its a long term thing for me. Otherwise i'd be going mad.

apple - 09 Dec 2003 15:55 - 428 of 2406

The number of shares bought is more than twice as many as the number sold.

The MMs are playing games with us by lowering the price.

They want your shares.

If you want a new hobby, try cynicism :-)

scotinvestor - 09 Dec 2003 16:08 - 429 of 2406

yeah, they've been doing this game now since september at least. Its getting boring!

Someone should complain about this to the relevant people, not just for RTD but for all the companies that they drag down. Especially as our stock market needs as much encouragement as it needs after the last 3 or 4 years suffering under this government.
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