goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 22 May 2014 16:23
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What are they going to be counting and getting results here in Britain tonight Hays???
Dont understand this.
Haystack
- 22 May 2014 16:30
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They won't count until Sunday as France and some others go to polls Sunday. No counting until all countries polls have closed. No discussions in media of exit polls until all polls closed Sunday.
The council elections will be counted tonight and tomorrow I believe.
cynic
- 22 May 2014 16:32
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i'll be almost more interested to see what turnout there is
Haystack
- 22 May 2014 16:34
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I am not sure you will get that either. I am not voting in the EU election.
cynic
- 22 May 2014 16:48
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shame on you .... a postal vote is no effort at all
goldfinger
- 22 May 2014 16:50
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Yep just looked in weekend supplement local Elections.
Wont be so good then.
Give pointers I suppose......like early interest rate rise, he he.
doodlebug4
- 22 May 2014 17:01
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Haystack, if you don't vote then you lose the right to moan or comment on the results! I don't care who you vote for - just do it. :-)
Haystack
- 22 May 2014 17:07
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If I vote it will be a spoilt paper as I don't like the whole MEP business.
For a few years I was deliberately not on the electoral roll to avoid jury service. It is a pain to have to do jury service when you run a business. I managed to get out of it twice with a lot of effort but got fed up with being asked.
cynic
- 22 May 2014 17:13
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you should be ashamed ..... you clearly want to live in a democracy, appear to be a political activist, but seem not to be prepared to honour the principles on which this system is built
Haystack
- 22 May 2014 17:18
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I vote in council elections and General Elections but not EU.
I am also not in favour of jury trials. Trusting 12 idiots to come to the right verdict does not seem a good idea.
goldfinger
- 22 May 2014 17:21
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Well if that was the case and I dont doubt it Hays, it goes down on your Credit Check with Experian and the other 2 and would have meant you wouldnt have been able to get any new credit or a mortgage for 6 years at least, until re-signing up on the electoral roll.
I know you probably dont want these facilities BUT you never know.
A lot of these ruffians who have debt outstanding do the same thing to try and avoid having thier collar felt but in time they are caught.
Some employers even use (credit check) it when checking your CV details.
I make sure I fill it in immediatly on my PC.
Haystack
- 22 May 2014 17:24
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gf
That was many years in the past and at a different address. In fact several previous addresses. I got out of jury service once by supplying loads of documentation about a project with lots of staff depending on me. The next time, I wrote a letter saying that I did not approve of jury trials and would feel obliged to find an accused innocent on that basis.
goldfinger
- 22 May 2014 17:27
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MAY 21, 2014
Leading Law Firm Slams ‘Exploitative’ Zero-Hours Contracts
Leading law firm, Thompson Solicitors, has slammed ‘exploitative’ zero-hours contracts and the coalition government’s “sham” consultation exercise into the use of the controversial employment contracts.
Thompsons Solicitors say zero-hours contracts provide no guarantee of work and can trap people into working for a single employer with ‘exclusivity’ clauses.
People trapped on zero-hours contracts have no idea how many hours they will be required to complete. Consequently, employees have no clear indication on how much they will be paid from week to week.
The law firm say the contracts prevent parents from planning family activities, and organising childcare, because zero-hours employees can be called into work at a moments notice on a ‘take it or leave it’ basis. This widespread ‘exploitation’ which ‘gives people no choice’ needs to be tackled, say Thompsons.
Thompsons say that government’s consultation into zero-hours contracts ‘proposes no effective solution’, and that employers should be able to achieve flexibility without needing to resort to contracts which seek to ‘exploit’ desperate jobseekers.
Responding to the consultation, Thomsons said that ‘exclusivity clauses’, which prevent zero-hours employees from working elsewhere, should be banned entirely. Not all zero-hours contracts include exclusivity clauses.
They also say that all zero-hours contracts should provide the same ‘basic employment rights’ already included in other contractual arrangements.
Workers should also be able to demand a “traditional contract” after a set period on a zero-hours contract. Thompsons claim that this right could be ‘introduced under the Part-time Workers Directive‘.
Zero-hours employees “on call” should also be protected by existing National Minimum Wage Legislation, which Thompsons say would help discourage employers from exploiting workers.
Thompsons Chief Executive Stephen Cavalier said:
“People on zero hours contracts have no guaranteed income and no certainty of when or whether they will be working. They cannot plan their lives, organise childcare or take on commitments. They are forced to accept zero hours contracts on a ‘take it or leave it’ basis. They have no real choice. It is exploitation that needs to be tackled.
“There should be zero tolerance of these exploitative contracts; abuses should be tackled. The government should outlaw zero hours contracts which tie workers to an employer with no guarantee of either work or pay.
“These five measures for reform will put an end to the abuse of zero hours contracts and, if implemented, would be a real signal from the government that they are taking low paid workers and their families seriously.
“There are too many families in the UK living below the poverty line. For the first time, more than half of those in poverty in the UK are working families. Unless urgent action is taken to tackle zero hours contracts, that situation will only get worse.”
Source – Welfare News Service,
goldfinger
- 22 May 2014 17:30
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Bit of a Jack The Lad you Hays, but I know what you mean as my late father who was self employed got caught and had to do 3 weeks and the compensation was miserly.
Worse still with being a sole trader it didnt help his business.
Haystack
- 22 May 2014 17:32
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gf
More cuts and paste from that silly vox blog. They are just talking about exploitative zero hours contracts which all parties are against.
cynic
- 22 May 2014 17:36
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personal views are fine but i think it worse than unprofessional for a firm of solicitors of any rank (never heard of these guys) to take a political stance
goldfinger
- 22 May 2014 17:40
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Its not from VOX.
Its from Welfare News Service recognised by the DSS.......and IDS.
He might have it on his blog but Ive got it direct from above.
Anyway the company are right about the exploitation.
Remember this when the down turn comes Zero hours contracts wont exist anymore, all of them will be sacked immidieatly. In fact they wont be sacked, they just wont ever hear from their employer again.
2.5 million aded to the unemployment figures overnight.
aldwickk
- 22 May 2014 17:45
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I am surprised at how many people who don't bother to vote in any elections before are voting today for UKIP
Haystack
- 22 May 2014 17:50
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gf
The same would happen in a downturn even if normal employment.