Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

for reference, i have just picked up the following and i can't be bothered to look up the source ....

• Election results:
• Ukip + 132 as Tories demand pact
• Labour + 273, fall short in middle England
• Tories - 147. 'Fire Shapps' demand members
• Lib Dems - 222, lose Kingston
• Farage: "Ukip fox is in the Westminster hen house"

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is crowing by labour as sticky propounds? ..... doesn't sound like it
and what of the tories performance? .... can't tell from the above

You're in friendly mode tonight c :-)


exterminate...

hi max .... not sure why it should surprise you, but generally, i'm always looking for a balanced viewpoint

Indeed c.

Now whats the chances of a tory/ukip tie up?

Taking into account Farage has stated that he will not enter any agreement with a Cameroon led party.

Eyewash, or are events overtaking the present?

Its silly talk from Hays clutching at straws.

Now this is solid not spectacular from labour...... Labour + 273,

thanks for posting that up Cyners.

Some were saying theyd only get 150+ and the labour gains in london from the Tories are a massive bonus.

cheers.

i must confess, +273 also doesn't sound much like even a pretty good result to me, so i'll wait to see what the political commentators have to say about it all .... we know the bit on ukip (very good but crap in london) but i've no idea on the other two (lib/dems are a wipeout of course)

This post was pinched from advfn, mabel seems to have got at some of the figs.



mabel 123
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The BBC is trying to downplay UKIP's success with some very deceptive statistics.

Usually commentators can't get enough of individual seats voting percentages and then bombard viewers with endless 'what if' projections.

Well, the BBC is trying to sell some spurious stat that UKIP received only 17% of 'projected national vote'.

This is camouflaged by 45% of the seats being under contention being in London where UKIP admit to being 18 months behind, and didn't even contest most seats.

So I decided to google some places where I know UKIP did quite well and the results were startling.

Basildon

UKIP 39%, Cons 34%, Lab 22%, LibDem 5%

Rotherham

UKIP 46%, Labour 43%, Cons 10%, other 6%.

NB

This would mean winning seats at a general election (but you wont find the BBC admitting this, worse, they are trying to pretend that UKIP's support is waning)

Roll on Sunday.

mabel

edit. When, in the past, has the BBC not told us what the breakdown of the vote is, in the individual constituencies.

Don't forget that the Libs lost 271 seats. That accounts for quite a few of other parties' gains.

Labour are just 4 seats short of an overal majority.

Just been on SKY news.

Given the cost of living crisis, interest rate rises on the horizon and inflation ready to take off again dont bet against labour getting that and a lot more by May next year.

You would think though that by the way the right wing media and press are reporting the results that Camoron had had a good night, this is absolutely way off the mark, the tories have had a diastorous night given that its 4 parties now chalenging for the leadership of the country.

Admitedly Milliband didnt have a last good week but to be within 4 seats of that overal majority it will only take the Yank axle to spruce his act up and Labour will be returned to power needing no assistance.

Max that Rotherham seat is a special situation, its where white girls were groomed by asian men in great numbers and the Town felt let down by the established labour party and voted in UKIP as a protest vote.

Come the GE I fully expect labour to take the town back again.

ps, we have heard some cods wallop from Hays tonight given the run up to these elections making out they were nothing of a threat etc etc, how much wronger could you get it.

UKIP were easily the winners last night and if Hays had the decency and balls hed admit he gave you Max some very personal negative disrepect over the last few weeks or so.

Well done for sticking to your convictions.

Thank you for your support gf.

It's galling for a tory to slag off the party, but what can you do when the tory party is no longer a functioning tory party, but merely a set of slightly smelly liberals?

Haystack is living in loonytown, he cant seem to grasp that life has moved on and the normal doesent work anymore...hence, ukip.

Ukip is a labour nightmare as well :-)

gf
The trend is towards the Conservatives and has been that way for months,

snooze.

Hays 4 just four remember hays just 4 seats required and were in with a majority.

enough of all you gibbering monkeys :-)

herebelow a proper balanced analysis ......

Labour's Ed Miliband faced the most serious questions after Labour failed to make the sort of gains to suggest he can win an outright majority in next year's general election.

But David Cameron was again forced to dismiss backbench calls for a pact with Ukip after it shouldered its way into "bellwether" parts of Essex like Basildon.

And severe Liberal Democrat losses in several former strongholds intensified pressure on Nick Clegg over the consequences of remaining in coalition with the Conservatives.

Projections of national vote share suggested that despite remaining in third place ahead of the Lib Dems, Ukip support was down since last year's local elections from 23% to 17%.

The findings of a large-scale opinion poll in marginal seats crucial to the general election result will also be pored over today when they are unveiled by Tory peer Lord Ashcroft.

With all but a handful of results yet to be declared, the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats had 173 and 244 fewer seats respectively - with the Tories in control of 11 fewer authorities and the Lib Dems two.

Ukip saw an extra 128 councillors elected, though it did not succeed in taking power in any town halls, and Labour gained 330 seats and took the reins in six areas.

Labour is well short of the 500 the Opposition should be looking for to be on course for a Westminster majority.

The BBC's projection of national vote share put Labour on 31%, only two points ahead of the Conservatives and again an indication it was falling short of outright victory.

You have to be realistic. UKIP only got a hundred odd seats out of 7,000. They don't have the party machinery to mount serious campaigns. Even the wildest Sky predictions show UKIP with just one MP. What a waste of votes.

gf
Don't forget that it was only roughly a month ago that polls were predicting a Labour majority of 78, then it was 44, then 28 and now hung parliament. That looks like a trend towards the Conservatives!

Local elections 2014: surge by Ukip throws Labour into poll crisis

Ed Miliband's hopes of winning 2015 general election severely undermined by Nigel Farage's success in the local elections



By James Kirkup, Political Editor

9:30PM BST 23 May 2014



Ed Miliband's hopes of winning next year’s general election were seriously undermined by the UK Independence Party’s surge in the local and European elections on Friday.


Nigel Farage proclaimed that Ukip had become a “serious player” in British politics after it managed to win council seats in traditional Labour strongholds – and areas which Mr Miliband must secure if he is to become prime minister.



Previously, Ukip’s major advances had largely been at the expense of the Conservatives, who also continued to suffer in the latest polls.


The development saw Labour MPs openly attacking their leader with members of the shadow cabinet at odds over how to counter the emerging Ukip threat.



Full story : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/local-elections/10853181/Local-elections-2014-surge-by-Ukip-throws-Labour-into-poll-crisis.html

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