goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
MaxK
- 25 May 2014 14:51
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EXCLUSIVE: 'We were WRONG, we are SORRY' Senior Labour MP pens open letter to Ukip voters
ONE of Labour's most senior figures has written an open letter to Ukip supporters today, apologising for the party's previous views on immigration concerns and urging them to "keep an open mind".
By: Owen Bennett - Political Reporter
Published: Sun, May 25, 2014

The Labour Party has changed. We know we made mistakes. We're determined to put them right.
Sadiq Khan
An Open Letter to Ukip supporters
I know you are fed up with politics as usual. I get that you are angry at the political parties. I understand you feel that successive Governments have done too little to help you.
Too many people have struggled for far too long. Too little of the benefits of growth have gone to working people and too much to the very wealthiest.
Wages have barely increased whilst the cost of everything - from housing to energy and food - has rocketed.
And in too many places immigration has driven down local wages.
I understand why people think that politicians do little to help them.
The expenses scandal and sleaze has broken trust.
There aren’t enough politicians brave enough to stand up to vested interests - the banks, businesses paying below a decent wage or bad landlords.
And politicians seem to speak a different language.
But the Labour Party has changed. We know we made mistakes. We're determined to put them right.
Take immigration. In the past, we were too quick to dismiss concerns about immigration, or even worse - accused people of prejudice.
We all remember Gillian Duffy. We were wrong. We are sorry.
So what are we offering now? Learning the English language will be a priority.
We will change the rules on child benefit - so that it's no longer paid to children outside of this country.
We will crack down on businesses that pay below the minimum wage and ensure local wages are not undercut.
And companies that employ people from outside the EU will be forced to offer apprenticeships to local young people.
But it's not just immigration. We will close the gap between what you earn and what you spend.
We will stop hard working people from being ripped off in our economy.
We will make renting more affordable and scrap extortionate letting agency fees.
On our watch, the minimum wage will be raised and we will promote a higher living wage for all. Energy prices will be frozen.
It is always easier to lose someone's trust than to win it back.
But over the next year we will do everything to prove that we are on your side.
We will work to improve your local community and stand up alongside you against the vested interests that make life harder. All we ask is that you keep an open-mind.
Sadiq Khan is Shadow Justice Secretary and Shadow London Minister.
Full story here:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/478076/We-were-wrong-we-are-sorry-Senior-Labour-MP-Sadiq-Khan-pens-open-letter-to-Ukip-voters
read the comments.
goldfinger
- 25 May 2014 15:35
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Hi Max, trouble with Hays is hes stuck in his ways.
Hes a decent chap really and i like reading his posts especially the ones relating to his earlier life eg, jew bloke who set Tesco up, forgoten his name . Cohen thats it Jack Cohen.
He just doesnt seem capable of moving from his beliefs, but then dont forget he is probably the oldest one of us posting here which in my book is an admirable plus.
*Elections again tonight. ill be up all night long.
aldwickk
- 25 May 2014 15:40
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cynic
Its improving , the only way to get things done is to pay for express service , otherwise it takes to long, or if you know friends who know friends that belongs to the same Church. We had our building permit go from 17th in line to the top.
cynic
- 25 May 2014 15:42
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me + building permits????
aldwickk
- 25 May 2014 15:46
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No , understand ?
cynic
- 25 May 2014 16:11
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if i had, why would i ask a question?
cynic
- 25 May 2014 16:59
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should have taken odds offered on rory mac on wednesday night or even friday morning or even this morning!
Haystack
- 25 May 2014 17:07
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gf
cynic is older.
cynic
- 25 May 2014 17:46
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any advance on 67 (68 in july)?
MaxK
- 25 May 2014 18:32
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cynic
- 25 May 2014 18:37
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looks about right to me, though all accept that an awful lot of ukip support in this jamboree is protest at eu and the (non)stance of the two major parties (particularly labour i would have thought) and has little bearing on GE predictions
MaxK
- 25 May 2014 18:59
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It's all about protest c, the bastards think they can get away with the three card trick (with some justification) time after time.
Not any more.
Haystack
- 25 May 2014 19:13
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The exit polls in Germany are showing a possible seat for a neo Nazi from the NPD party. The law in Germany was changed so that there is no minimum percentage needed to get seats and now you get seats in proportion of national vote. That brings Germany into line with most of Europe including the UK.
cynic
- 25 May 2014 21:07
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max - as already posted several times, i think a ukip MEP is just a bad joke, but then the whole strasbourg/brussels gravy train is pretty sickening too .... however, there is a bit more than that to remaining within or without the eu
with that in mind, and i confess i am somewhat puzzled and bemused by your last post, may i ask if you intend to vote for ukip in GE?
MaxK
- 25 May 2014 21:44
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c, the answer to your question is possibly.
However, seeing as I live in Hampshire, a non tory vote is an anomaly.
Dan Hannon is the lead tory for the €uro's, but also a €urobasher, so you see the problem.
The rest come nowhere near the lead down here.
MaxK
- 25 May 2014 21:49
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addendum:
If the bashers get enough €uro-mp's, they can then do something about the Brussels empire from within.
That's the aim, as I am not against a union full stop, just the present set-up which isn't working.
Haystack
- 25 May 2014 21:54
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Anywhere nice in Hampshire? I used to live in Yately, Hampshire and went to school in Farnborough.
MaxK
- 25 May 2014 22:02
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Waterlooville, and it's very nice, no problems at all.
Couple of mins from the sea.
doodlebug4
- 25 May 2014 22:11
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I told you so, McIlroy has a terrible record at Wentworth, cannot putt to save his skin, just broken up with his girl friend, no chance ------------------- ooops!!! Golf is a crazy game !:-)
Haystack
- 25 May 2014 22:16
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I know where that is. We used to go sailing at Hayling Island with the kids a few years ago.