Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

any advance on 67 (68 in july)?

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looks about right to me, though all accept that an awful lot of ukip support in this jamboree is protest at eu and the (non)stance of the two major parties (particularly labour i would have thought) and has little bearing on GE predictions

It's all about protest c, the bastards think they can get away with the three card trick (with some justification) time after time.

Not any more.

The exit polls in Germany are showing a possible seat for a neo Nazi from the NPD party. The law in Germany was changed so that there is no minimum percentage needed to get seats and now you get seats in proportion of national vote. That brings Germany into line with most of Europe including the UK.

max - as already posted several times, i think a ukip MEP is just a bad joke, but then the whole strasbourg/brussels gravy train is pretty sickening too .... however, there is a bit more than that to remaining within or without the eu

with that in mind, and i confess i am somewhat puzzled and bemused by your last post, may i ask if you intend to vote for ukip in GE?

c, the answer to your question is possibly.

However, seeing as I live in Hampshire, a non tory vote is an anomaly.

Dan Hannon is the lead tory for the €uro's, but also a €urobasher, so you see the problem.

The rest come nowhere near the lead down here.

addendum:

If the bashers get enough €uro-mp's, they can then do something about the Brussels empire from within.

That's the aim, as I am not against a union full stop, just the present set-up which isn't working.

Anywhere nice in Hampshire? I used to live in Yately, Hampshire and went to school in Farnborough.

Waterlooville, and it's very nice, no problems at all.

Couple of mins from the sea.

I told you so, McIlroy has a terrible record at Wentworth, cannot putt to save his skin, just broken up with his girl friend, no chance ------------------- ooops!!! Golf is a crazy game !:-)

I know where that is. We used to go sailing at Hayling Island with the kids a few years ago.

It looks like the French National Front have about 25% of the vote.

max - many thanks (again) for your poll indicator (post 41409)

i confess to being somewhat surprised that, as far as i can tell from rather muddly news bulletins, though ukip has polled top, it is with less than the predicted 30/31% (actual ~29%) and there's not much to choose between labour and conservatives (24/25%) though the former look to have just edged into 2nd place

turnout was the usual pathetic 36% .....

almost as an aside, i watched BBC this morning and the efforts to interview boot-sale stallholders in retford (near newark) ..... the few who were prepared to talk, for i guess most others shied away through a justified fear of being collared by HMRC (tells you a bit doesn't it!), could scarcely string two words together .... no further comment required!

Morning c, I'm late out of the nest today.

Looks like a stunning victory for ukip and some other €uropean based parties.

Dunno about the detail, only on first cup of tea.

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ukip coming first has been a bit of a no-brainer for a few weeks, despite what hays liked to tell us :-)

however, though labour seems to have done well in london and the se, it was not as strong a showing as i would have expected, for the predictions were that the conservatives would trail in 3rd by several % points, and that was also not the case

there were some curious results withing mainland europe too, not least that (thank goodness) the blatantly racist right-wingers in nl got stuffed against the odds
on the other hand, their counterparts in france have done scarily well

overall, i would have thought a poor result for Europe United, as patently it is not!
but that should strengthen DC's hand in significant re-negotiation, as a good number of other countries are also clearly unhappy with the status quo

I'm not sure about the results strengthening cameroons hand, I think he is a lost cause and should resign toot sweet, theres no way he is going to win the next general election.

As for €uropaland, Le Pen is quoted as "only winning 25% of the vote" failing to say that it was the biggest slice of the vote by some margin.


Can Cleggy survive?

so max, who would you have in Number 10?
surely not EM .... he's dreadful and i really don't care which party he represents

clegg is dead!

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there was a coffee-coloured labour chap on tv this morning about whom i had forgotten .... now he certainly presents well and has some character and charisma as of course did DM

do the conservatives have anyone on whom one could hang one's hat?
hmm - none that i can think of i'm afraid

Dunno c, they're a rum lot...all of them, funny enough, Cleggy was probably the best of the current batch but he's a goner now...off the €uroland no doubt.

hehe, guido sums it up...


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