Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Waterlooville, and it's very nice, no problems at all.

Couple of mins from the sea.

I told you so, McIlroy has a terrible record at Wentworth, cannot putt to save his skin, just broken up with his girl friend, no chance ------------------- ooops!!! Golf is a crazy game !:-)

I know where that is. We used to go sailing at Hayling Island with the kids a few years ago.

It looks like the French National Front have about 25% of the vote.

max - many thanks (again) for your poll indicator (post 41409)

i confess to being somewhat surprised that, as far as i can tell from rather muddly news bulletins, though ukip has polled top, it is with less than the predicted 30/31% (actual ~29%) and there's not much to choose between labour and conservatives (24/25%) though the former look to have just edged into 2nd place

turnout was the usual pathetic 36% .....

almost as an aside, i watched BBC this morning and the efforts to interview boot-sale stallholders in retford (near newark) ..... the few who were prepared to talk, for i guess most others shied away through a justified fear of being collared by HMRC (tells you a bit doesn't it!), could scarcely string two words together .... no further comment required!

Morning c, I'm late out of the nest today.

Looks like a stunning victory for ukip and some other €uropean based parties.

Dunno about the detail, only on first cup of tea.

edit. cant get the link to work. This one should:

http://order-order.com/

ukip coming first has been a bit of a no-brainer for a few weeks, despite what hays liked to tell us :-)

however, though labour seems to have done well in london and the se, it was not as strong a showing as i would have expected, for the predictions were that the conservatives would trail in 3rd by several % points, and that was also not the case

there were some curious results withing mainland europe too, not least that (thank goodness) the blatantly racist right-wingers in nl got stuffed against the odds
on the other hand, their counterparts in france have done scarily well

overall, i would have thought a poor result for Europe United, as patently it is not!
but that should strengthen DC's hand in significant re-negotiation, as a good number of other countries are also clearly unhappy with the status quo

I'm not sure about the results strengthening cameroons hand, I think he is a lost cause and should resign toot sweet, theres no way he is going to win the next general election.

As for €uropaland, Le Pen is quoted as "only winning 25% of the vote" failing to say that it was the biggest slice of the vote by some margin.


Can Cleggy survive?

so max, who would you have in Number 10?
surely not EM .... he's dreadful and i really don't care which party he represents

clegg is dead!

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there was a coffee-coloured labour chap on tv this morning about whom i had forgotten .... now he certainly presents well and has some character and charisma as of course did DM

do the conservatives have anyone on whom one could hang one's hat?
hmm - none that i can think of i'm afraid

Dunno c, they're a rum lot...all of them, funny enough, Cleggy was probably the best of the current batch but he's a goner now...off the €uroland no doubt.

hehe, guido sums it up...


http://order-order.com/

Shadow Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills
Chuka Umunna MP

that was the chap's name on tv this morning

cynic

Philippines only 12, but UK same as Italy on 5 very hard to belive. Not very accurate i don't think , how did they get these results ?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23231318

I am not surprised that the Libs got wiped out. It was madness to debate with Farage and then say they loved the EU and wouldn't have a referendum under any circumstances. It highlights why they are the 'silly party'.

Overall, the results were as expected. I thought the Conservative share stood up well for a mid term election. The surprise was how poorly Labour did.

The turnout is only half that of a GE. In a GE, I think people will return to type. There will be a dramatic choice if you want a referendum.

Vote for Conservatives for a referendum and vote for any other party if you don't want one.

among others, saudi arabia is skilfully omitted .... i wonder why that would be :-)

with regards to philippines, we do a fair amount of unbribed(!!) biz there, but certainly one senior banker we knew had to have a permanent armed bodyguard when he went there to investigate corruption in the company

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umunna
oh dear oh dear!
part nigerian and part irish
private education (in part) and would not rule out educating his own children privately

doesn't matter that he looks good and sounds intelligent, for the above will no doubt scupper his chances at day 1 :-)

hays - when was there last a 72% turnout even at GE?


i'll save you the effort ....
between 1945 and 1997, turnout was consistently (every time!) above 70%
2001 = 59.4% = blair
2005 = 61.4% = blair/brown
2010 = 65.1% = cameron + clegg

cynic
I think the bribery stats are probably for personal activity. From my knowledge, Italy has very little bribery that affects people. It is restricted to the business world and it happens here as well. I have been asked dpfor bribes in the UK in the business world. In Italy the Mafia and its two or three variants control business almost completely in some areas, but people are left alone.

italy doesn't ask for bribes, it just wants you to support their extended family :-)
as for internally, racing certainty that bribes, protection money and the like are rife

Turnout at GE

2010 65.1
2005 61.4
2001 59.4
1997 71.4
1992 77.7
1987 75.3
1983 72.7
1979 76
1974 Oct 72.8
1974 Feb 78.8
1970 72
1966 75.8
1964 77.1
1959 78.7
1955 76.8
1951 82.6
1950 83.9
1945 72.8

labour seems to have done well in london

What do you expect when all those ethnic minoritys are growing in number. large numbers of them would not be in London if it was not for the EU open borders policy

Couldn't see them voting for UKIP