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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 26 May 2014 18:01 - 41444 of 81564

European elections 2014: This is one peasants’ revolt that Brussels can’t just brush aside

All across Europe, the message is clear: the EU must hand back power to the people



from the story:

There is a kind of peasants’ revolt going on, a jacquerie. From Dublin to Lublin, from Portugal to Pomerania, the pitchfork-wielding populists are converging on the Breydel building in Brussels – drunk on local hooch and chanting nationalist slogans and preparing to give the federalist machinery a good old kicking with their authentically folkloric clogs. There are Greek anti-capitalists and Hungarian neo-fascists and polite German professors who want to bring back the Deutschemark. They are making common cause with Left-wing Italian comedians and Right-wing Dutch firebrands and the general slogan is simple: down with technocracy, down with bureaucracy, and give power back to the people!


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/10855860/European-elections-2014-This-is-one-peasants-revolt-that-Brussels-cant-just-brush-aside.html

MaxK - 26 May 2014 18:04 - 41445 of 81564

And Boris thinks we are peasants....

MaxK - 26 May 2014 18:31 - 41446 of 81564

cynic - 26 May 2014 18:54 - 41447 of 81564

41446 - load of rubbish!

whatever you may wish, FN, UKIP, Syriza and similar fundamentally have little in common (thank goodness) and would be incapable of forming a single-minded coalition
for all that, strasbourg/brussels will assuredly have to have some serious soul-searching if it wants to avoid a gradual disintegration at best

with a bit of luck, this will give DC some decent traction to wring some meaningful concessions from the more important members of eu
only problem is that he, or at least the conservatives, will have to be back in power in june 2015, which is not such an easy task

leave it to EM?
hahaha!
he and the unions and the rest of the labour party have no interest in reducing the power of brussels/strasbourg

MaxK - 26 May 2014 20:02 - 41448 of 81564

Written and published before the results...did this guy hit it on the head or what?





Whatever the European election result, Ukip has already won

Ukip has changed the shape of politics – for the better





Whether or not Ukip wins, this month’s European election campaign has belonged to one politician alone: Nigel Farage. Single-handedly he has brought these otherwise moribund elections to life. Single-handedly he has restored passion, genuine debate and meaning to politics. Single-handedly he has reinvented British democracy.



http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9212811/ukips-triumph/

aldwickk - 26 May 2014 21:21 - 41449 of 81564

If it wasn't for Nick Clegg's good showing at the last election TV debate his party would not be shareing power with the torys and he would not be DPM.

and If it wasn't for Nick Clegg's bad showing on the Euro debate
with Farage more people would have voted for the LIB/DEMS

He should resign , the bad showing is all down to him and he brought down the tory vote as well with his party trying to block imigration control measures

Haystack - 26 May 2014 21:36 - 41450 of 81564

I am quite happy with poor leaders in charge of the Libs and the Labs.

MaxK - 26 May 2014 21:42 - 41451 of 81564

Better warm up a nice comfy €uro commissioners seat....




Damning verdict: Nick Clegg and Lib Dems face wipeout

Internal ICM polling shows Clegg would lose his Sheffield Hallam seat in 2015



Patrick Wintour and Nicholas Watt


The Guardian, Monday 26 May 2014 20.45 BST





The electoral oblivion apparently confronting the Liberal Democrats as led by Nick Clegg was underscored on Monday by leaked opinion polls in four seats showing that the party will be wiped out.

Commissioned by a Lib Dem supporter from ICM and subsequently passed to the Guardian, the polling indicates that the Lib Dem leader would forfeit his own Sheffield Hallam constituency at the next election.

The party would also lose its seats in in Cambridge, Redcar and Wells, costing MPs Julian Huppert, Ian Swales and Tessa Munt Westminster seats.

If the business secretary, Vince Cable, were to take over as leader, the Lib Dems would perform marginally better, the data suggests. Appointing Danny Alexander, the chief secretary, would give the party a more modest boost.

The damning verdict comes after a crestfallen and visibly exhausted Clegg said in the early afternoon that he would not buckle in the face of woeful European election results that lost the party 10 of its 11 MEP and left it in fifth place.



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/26/nick-clegg-and-lib-dems-face-battle-for-survival

MaxK - 26 May 2014 21:56 - 41452 of 81564

Comment from the boards at advfn.


PENDRAGON2
26 May'14 - 21:44 - 64529 of 64529 0 0


News from germany:

While the rest of Europe was wondering who they'd voted for, Angela Merkel held a meeting today with SPD leader Sigmar Gabriel to decide who will get the top jobs in the EU to succeed Barroso and co.

Her man Rompoy will get the top job, next will be Martin Shulz, an SPDer, who is in theory in competition with Rompoy for the top job, but will accept a compromise! That follows a meeting at 02.00 in Brussels yesterday i which the two of them agreed the amicable stitch up.

No-one else in Europe has a say about what will happen.

It beggars belief.

The UK really should leave this shambles asap.

Chris Carson - 26 May 2014 22:02 - 41453 of 81564

Bravo Nige!!! now that you have kicked the shit out Europe lets have a go at the jobs for the boys Health and Safety Knobheads!! Last straw for me was the risk assessment on the toaster in the kitchen at my work. AND the 3'x 2' at the foot of the stairs notice declaring all hot drinks must be covered to avoid spillage. These guys are taking the pisshe and being paid for the privilege. Rant over! :O)

Haystack - 26 May 2014 22:10 - 41454 of 81564

The above is nonsense. The job of president is held in rotation. Decisions are taken by the heads of state of the 28 countries.

goldfinger - 26 May 2014 22:19 - 41455 of 81564

Hays you forfeited your chance to post on Europe by not voting thursday.

Now stop it or Ill ask Cynic to smack your bottom.

Must admit it was all a boring afair anyway waiting for london for 2 hours or more.

Far better thursday night.

On the QT I have heard Nigel is targeting 20 seats for the GE.

18 con seats 2 labour seats and 1 Lib/Dem seat.

Hes going to throw everything bar the kitchen sink at these seats.

MaxK - 27 May 2014 00:03 - 41456 of 81564

Business leaders say politicians must act 'to deliver reform of EU’

Business leaders have demanded that the main party leaders set out new deal with EU


(left - right) Nick Clegg, Ed Miliband and David Cameron, who have all been left reeling by the “political earthquake” caused by Ukip’s victory in the European elections


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10857292/Business-leaders-say-politicians-must-act-to-deliver-reform-of-EU.html

MaxK - 27 May 2014 00:06 - 41457 of 81564

The other two are already zomby's, dave is waiting for the €U shot up the bum

MaxK - 27 May 2014 08:00 - 41458 of 81564





Hell hath no fury like a lefty scorned....read the comments.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2014/may/26/steve-bell-european-election-results

Shortie - 27 May 2014 10:22 - 41459 of 81564

Immigration aside I still rememeber this article, lets not forget that the EU is able to change the rules as it sees fit and tap us to shore up its Euro currency also. So far we've handed Europeans the keys to our land, supported them financially, given them a blank cheque to cash in their lands and asked for nothing in return. Seams a little one sided to me this European Union, your either a giver or a taker, enough is enough.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/389444/Cyprus-bail-out-will-cost-British-taxpayers-38-2m
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/424856/Back-door-bailout-of-Greece-may-cost-taxpayers-millions

cynic - 27 May 2014 10:30 - 41460 of 81564

i don't think we have any obligations "to shore up the euro" and i'm sure we declined to do so in the recent crises

aldwickk - 27 May 2014 10:32 - 41461 of 81564

Tony Blair on radio 4

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27585260

"You look underneath that UKIP facade and you see something pretty nasty and unpleasant," he told BBC Radio 4.

We should have looked underneath your goverment when you were PM , maybe we will discover the truth some day.

Shortie - 27 May 2014 10:36 - 41462 of 81564

We contribute to EU Budget Structrual Funds, these were used in the bailout so we did contribute. Our government said that we wouldn't pay anything additional to these funds. Question is, why are we paying into this anyway?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_Funds_and_Cohesion_Fund

Shortie - 27 May 2014 10:46 - 41463 of 81564

Bleep, bleep, Blair on Radio 4 ah...! Waste of air time that man, clue less.
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