Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic Send an email to cynic View cynic's profile - 29 May 2014 09:33 - 41611 of 41613

better be soon before he keels over as he looks like shit


I supposed that maybe better than being "shit" like Cameron and Fauxpage!

The UK Treasury has said the European Commission should not be asking for "yet more money" from EU member states.

The commission has published proposals to increase the 2014 contributions from members by 2.16 billion euros (£1.76bn) to cover increased costs for growth and jobs schemes, and help for Ukraine.

It wants 4.73 billion euros (£3.85bn) in total but some will come from other sources including competition fines.

The Treasury said the commission should use "existing funds" to cover costs.

Under a mechanism called the "contingency margin", the European Commission can call for extra funding for unforeseen circumstances.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27616021

I think for many the thing which sticks in their throats about "Clegg" is the feeling they have of being betrayed over the University fees.

If Clegg can somehow find a way to admit that and the reasons for the action which are plausible or acceptable to his disappointed followers, he may have the route back.

Being in the coalition may have brought a sense of reality, previously missing in the the Lib/dem party, but the do seem to have the problem of no "legitimate" replacement leader.

I think Vince Cable may have been a better party leader than Clegg, or recent previous incumbents, but even though a good few years younger than myself, I doubt he would relish 3-5 years in the political wilderness as party leader "of a demoralised party".

However, "if" there is a coalition government of Labour and Lib/Dems after the next election, I would anticipate Cable being in any cabinet formed, as he would be able to align himself more easily with their policies.

Interesting to watch.

Shortie,

How much did the coalition government short change the UK "hard working" tax payer when they sold the the Royal Mail to their "friends" in the city?

i know i posted this yesterday, but i am so incensed by this sharp practice, that i thought i'ld repeat .....

CHESS TELECOM
i very much hope that none of our "friends" here subscribe through this company.

as a very small example of their sharp practice ......
when your contract expires, should you not agree to renew, they charge you an admin fee of £99.00 (+ VAT no doubt) for closing the account
for doing what exactly???? ..... the account should be de facto closed because it no longer exists

apparently it is all in their so-called T&Cs, no doubt buried somewhere in the minutiae.
almost needless to say, rather like Ryanair, it is effectively impossible to get beyond the first poor sucker who answers the calls

Don't pay it c, they cant do naff all about a £99 bill.

Fred lets face it the government has been asset stripping the tax payer for a very long time... Remember when Gordon Brown sold our gold reserves at rock bottom prices, the privatisation of the Railways..

probably not true max and is it worth the grief as i'm quite sure it is indeed hidden somewhere in their t&cs

frankly, i'ld rather broadcast this sharp practice on here where it will, i hope, get some decent coverage .... i'll almost certainly re-post a few more times in the hope of a greater audience as most posts get quickly swamped by the usual verbose practitioners

Cynic, it doesn't matter if its in their T's & C's if you weren't informed you can dispute the charge. Consumer law is very different from business law on the emphasis of being informed.

Yep and the selling off of Council Houses under Thatcher and at the same time the waste of the tax take from north Sea oil which was squandered on the unemployed approx 8 million at the time. And her privatisation of Utilitys at knock down prices.

They have all been at it.

Cameron would probably be the worst if he got a second term, just look at NHS contracts handed down to his chums from the past and in the City.

my time in arguing back and forth is worth more than the cost ..... as a good solicitor friend of mine used to say, "what price principles?"

as i said, telling as many people as i can either directly or through this medium will hopefully do Chess far more damage

If its in the small print Cyners like you say a very difficult act to try and overtun it even if you use the legal trade.

eg, if a standing order is required for a payment on a monthly basis but the company you are buying from set this up on your behalf and allow eg, 3 days tolerance to cater for leap years things like that and if it goes over the payment date YOU are charged interest for late payment.

Say this is over a 10 year period, these arrears build up.

But in their written contract T@C you get a copy it says YOU are responsible for paying on time or incurr interest charges, nothing you can do about it even though THEY set up the terms of the Standing Order. !!!!!!!!

Just happened to my sister on a loan she took out and went to see CAB solicitor.

Not a leg to stand on he told her.

Strange how the law works.

Well I'd fight it over the principle and want to see my signed contract or call recording where I agreed to it at the least before parting with any money. Make them bloody work for their money I say, after all if you were to give away £99 to everyone that demanded it where would you be?

Best like you say Cyners get their name down (and tell them )on as many financial sites as possible eg, money wise, supermarket .com and lots more, just put down the exact details no libeling and say how aggrieved you feel.

They arent going to like publicity like that.

Shortie my sister did just that and the barstewards charged her £20 for the copies of what she had signed.

And in the T@C again so she had no chance.

you and i are of one accord sticky .... not that unusual actually, except when you're being a silly billy :-)

in fact, this is the only site to which i belong ..... no twitter, facebook or other crap either

It is not worth the trouble to fight the case, which is what the company relies on. You could go to court and would probably win as t&c that are unreasonable are often found to be unenforceable. The problem is the cost of your time. Unfortunately, I tend to go to court and argue the toss. I have never lost so far.

I had an interesting case some years ago. I had a temp receptionist from an agency for a week, but had to get rid of her as she smelled of hideous perfume which I could not get her to stop using. I wouldn't pay the agency so I received solicitor's letters. The interesting part of the case was that the invoice had been factored. The agency was chasing for the money though even as they had factored (sold) the debt. It was part of the factoring agreement that the agency would chase the debt and go to court. I went to court an pointed out to the District Judge that the debt was not owed to the agency as it had been sold to a factoring company. The judge agreed. Apparently, it was the first time someone had gone to court and won in that type of case.

Yep but you can use twitter to highlite these sharp practises from these scumsters who use them.

I have 900 plus followers and 5600 0n a joint account, all I do is one short message and it goes out to all these followers who in turn can retweet it and it goes to thousands and thousands of people like a pyramid system.

1 minute job if that.

These scumsters wont like that kind of audience.

any chance you could post my gripe on twitter for me?

Well done Hays in court case above.

ps, dont you spray yourself with them male pheromones, perhaps she was trying to neutralise the smell.