goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 29 May 2014 12:05
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thanks pal
i'm trying to attach to the site Exec mentioned ....
before accepting a complaint, that site is appallingly intrusive asking for details that i wouldn't even give to my mother, and she's dead!
Shortie
- 29 May 2014 12:06
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Execs youtube video I've posted on Facebook and asked people to share.
goldfinger
- 29 May 2014 12:11
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Sent it out again Cyners. Id inform them if I were you that youve taken this action.......just to rub it in.
MaxK
- 29 May 2014 12:12
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we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender
cynic
- 29 May 2014 12:13
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will do, once i get their letter back (a) confirming that my account will be closed once the contract expires and (b) they actually reimburse me the £239 that they already agree they owe (and that's another story!)
Shortie
- 29 May 2014 12:16
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Make sure you get it in writing.
goldfinger
- 29 May 2014 12:24
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Or in blood .............LOL.
cynic
- 29 May 2014 12:24
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i attach an extract of a further e- i have just sent to Chess ....
KINDLY ENSURE AND CONFIRM IN WRITING THAT ALL MY CONTRACTS WITH CHESS WILL INDEED BE DETERMINED ON THE DUE DATE AND WITHOUT PENALTY OR ANY OTHER NONSENSE
I also note that I am not alone in feeling aggrieved by Chess’s sharp practices.
I would have posted my own complaint on the relevant board but notice that there are a great many highly intrusive and personal questions asked before any complaint will be accepted.
From the format, I’ld guess these details are passed on to the assorted companies that pop up on that screen
All totally unacceptable yet again!
Fred1new
- 29 May 2014 12:40
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I have sympathy for your cause.
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The contracts for services on the internet are minefields.
How they can be simplified to cover need of both parties is another minefield, but relate back to trying to get a phone in the early 50s and having to wait for months.
But at least you had a chance of knowing what the bill would be.
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Having, written that are there any suggestions for cheapest "setups" "sim Cards or contracts" enabling the use of a mobile phone as a modem abroad for data down load of end of the day data, occasional dealing and E-mails?
Used orange on last trip and very good, but a little pricey.
cynic
- 29 May 2014 12:44
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my enemy's enemy is my friend :-)
i only found out about the termination charge when i started to ask about getting out of the contract early ..... don't even start down that one!
the whole thing is actually related to phone lines going into the flat i rent out in london
doodlebug4
- 29 May 2014 12:45
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cynic - they must surely be regulated by some form of financial omsbudsman?
cynic
- 29 May 2014 12:48
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that as may be, but you can bet they will have run this past some pretty tough and canny lawyers .... a bit or even a lot like Ryanair
if you pursue Ryanair, as a friend of mine did for a very justifiable claim, he only discovered a long way down the line that any claim had to be made through the courts in dublin .....
guess what? ..... as soon as those papers were then lodged, Ryanair paid up like lambs
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with regards to the CHESS TELECOM issue, i am very grateful to all you chaps who have posted my complaint on assorted social media sites .... this will be much more effective for obvious reasons
Fred1new
- 29 May 2014 13:04
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"the whole thing is actually related to phone lines going into the flat i rent out in london"
What trade or profession have you set yourself up in now?
8-)
cynic
- 29 May 2014 13:08
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it's a small freehold property i have owned since 1978
it's the restaurant i bought as a going concern, ran as same until 1978, and then had a (restaurant) tenant in there until 2011
i always wanted to redevelop it, so the top part became residential, but very seriously wanted the lower section to stay as a restaurant to help maintain "the village" ..... unfortunately, i couldn't find a taker with half-way respectable covenants; the rent was not an issue
ultimately and regretfully i took a barrowload offered by an A1 commercial tenant for the lower part
the top half is a really super flat - i couldn't afford it!
Shortie
- 29 May 2014 13:27
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Chess Telecom Ltd has one director a Charles David Pollock, hes also the majority shareholder of Chess Ltd the parent company which owns a number of small utilities. Looking at the size of the parent its a SME so there more than likely trying their luck if they didn't hold a contract wouldn't pursue you legally anyway... I fully respect however the easy life of paying up and moving on if the hasstle isn't worth your time.
Shortie
- 29 May 2014 13:29
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Here are the other associated companies
ExecLine
- 29 May 2014 15:18
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I would suggest, that you try to defend it along the lines of either it being an unfair contract or using some kind of breach of legalities on the part of Chess. If this defence is a very good one and looks like you know what you are talking about, then there is a chance they might leave you alone.
But it is so easy to deliver a default summons these days and not too expensive either. If you get one from them, then costs will be added to the claim.
You might well be advised to cut your throat, gulp, bang your own head against the wall, and pay up. If you do so, then promise yourself, that the next time you buy something like this, you will always use Google and the suppliers name on it, together with the word Reviews.
Slagging Chess Telecom off on the Internet only damages their reputation and clearly, they don't give much of a toss about this being done. The main reason being, that they use dodgy sales personnel and dodgy sales methods.
People who make the buying decisions for this type of service supply will usually belong to a category of punter who has never even heard of Chess Telecom. That's how they get away with so much.
You might well do better to pay up, write off the whole nasty experience, and move on with the rest of your life. All, whilst concentrating your efforts on gaining back the funds you have just spent on paying them off but in a more pleasurable direction of activity, eg, on the stock market - which you love.
Hope that helps. :-)
Fred1new
- 29 May 2014 16:40
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Manuel,
I would blame Nick Clegg.
Everybody else is!
8-)
goldfinger
- 29 May 2014 16:52
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"MANDATORY WORK ACTIVITY IS WOBBLING, KEEP KICKING TILL IT BREAKS”
It’s all doomed, IDS is doomed, he has wasted billions of tax payers money on welfare reforms that will ultimately prove to outweigh the savings, He is an idiot and the entire coalition is imploding. Those who have been getting away with exploiting the unemployed, mentally and physically disabled and sick people in general will have to pay the piper for their involvement. Rather like the Nazi’s did after WW2.. they may say “I only kept the books and took the numbers”.. they were still found guilty and executed. We may live in a more civilized time with a so-called democracy but when you support right-wing parties they tend to veer towards fascism in extreme cases and those who support such ideals of right-wing “nobody should be dependent or taken care of be them unemployed, mentally/physically disabled” and also take away the means for people to get out of that position…then it’s clear.
David Cameron is so stupid to think that Food Banks are “The Big Society” in full effect!.. IT IS NOT! it is society trying to survive under the jackboot of Eton, oxford and harrow educated fascist policies under the invisible banner of Mosley’s black shirts, nobody needs an history lesson regarding the events along cable street at that time and we certainly do not want to go there again in the 21st century. If you don’t know about Oswald Mosley I suggest you Google it and you will see an example of how it was then and how we don’t need to ever go there again. Charities should be absolutely ashamed of themselves getting involved with these schemes, this only goes to prove the integrity of well known charitable organisations are tainted by the lust for money and access to enforced free slavery with little or no advantage to the individuals in these positions… those being forced to do it have no choice but the organisations choosing to be part of these dirty schemes certainly do have that choice and the choice should be not to get involved if they had any integrity, they have proven what many of us already know… they are merely a capitalist front because mistakes like this are not made and they went into these schemes with their eye’s wide open with no excuses even if they choose to leave after all this time.
goldfinger
- 29 May 2014 16:55
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UK POVERTY IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE – FOR EVERYONE
MAY 29, 2014 / JAYNEL62
This is an email I felt had to be wriiten, it was sent to Paul O’ Grady in response to his article on Child Poverty in yesterday’s Mirror – sent to him via his website email
Dear Paul
Further to your article in the Mirror today, whilst I totally agree with you, I wish you and others concerned with this disgraceful situation,would also acknowledge this problem extends to include Millions of disabled, elderly and other vulnerable people; in fact dozens of disabled people are dying weekly and to date the figure since the inception of Welfare Reform could be as high as 38,000+
I totally concur with your points that poorer children are more likely to have mental health problems, and again this is the position with all people in poverty;
and I agree the current position should be a national disgrace, particularly whilst the Richest prosper disproportionally in the UK. Embarrassingly whilst the treatment of disabled people is so severe, our media, in the main ignores it, and yet other nationalities agree it warrants reporting in their National Press press, I refer to this article in Le Monde
I hope you can find the time to read the links as I’m sure you will agree that Poverty in the UK is a Disgrace regardless of the people it affects.
Regards
Jayne Linney
I’ll let you know if I get a response