Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - they must surely be regulated by some form of financial omsbudsman?

that as may be, but you can bet they will have run this past some pretty tough and canny lawyers .... a bit or even a lot like Ryanair

if you pursue Ryanair, as a friend of mine did for a very justifiable claim, he only discovered a long way down the line that any claim had to be made through the courts in dublin .....
guess what? ..... as soon as those papers were then lodged, Ryanair paid up like lambs

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with regards to the CHESS TELECOM issue, i am very grateful to all you chaps who have posted my complaint on assorted social media sites .... this will be much more effective for obvious reasons

"the whole thing is actually related to phone lines going into the flat i rent out in london"


What trade or profession have you set yourself up in now?


8-)

it's a small freehold property i have owned since 1978
it's the restaurant i bought as a going concern, ran as same until 1978, and then had a (restaurant) tenant in there until 2011

i always wanted to redevelop it, so the top part became residential, but very seriously wanted the lower section to stay as a restaurant to help maintain "the village" ..... unfortunately, i couldn't find a taker with half-way respectable covenants; the rent was not an issue

ultimately and regretfully i took a barrowload offered by an A1 commercial tenant for the lower part
the top half is a really super flat - i couldn't afford it!

Chess Telecom Ltd has one director a Charles David Pollock, hes also the majority shareholder of Chess Ltd the parent company which owns a number of small utilities. Looking at the size of the parent its a SME so there more than likely trying their luck if they didn't hold a contract wouldn't pursue you legally anyway... I fully respect however the easy life of paying up and moving on if the hasstle isn't worth your time.

Here are the other associated companies

I would suggest, that you try to defend it along the lines of either it being an unfair contract or using some kind of breach of legalities on the part of Chess. If this defence is a very good one and looks like you know what you are talking about, then there is a chance they might leave you alone.

But it is so easy to deliver a default summons these days and not too expensive either. If you get one from them, then costs will be added to the claim.

You might well be advised to cut your throat, gulp, bang your own head against the wall, and pay up. If you do so, then promise yourself, that the next time you buy something like this, you will always use Google and the suppliers name on it, together with the word Reviews.

Slagging Chess Telecom off on the Internet only damages their reputation and clearly, they don't give much of a toss about this being done. The main reason being, that they use dodgy sales personnel and dodgy sales methods.

People who make the buying decisions for this type of service supply will usually belong to a category of punter who has never even heard of Chess Telecom. That's how they get away with so much.

You might well do better to pay up, write off the whole nasty experience, and move on with the rest of your life. All, whilst concentrating your efforts on gaining back the funds you have just spent on paying them off but in a more pleasurable direction of activity, eg, on the stock market - which you love.

Hope that helps. :-)

Manuel,

I would blame Nick Clegg.

Everybody else is!


8-)

"MANDATORY WORK ACTIVITY IS WOBBLING, KEEP KICKING TILL IT BREAKS”

It’s all doomed, IDS is doomed, he has wasted billions of tax payers money on welfare reforms that will ultimately prove to outweigh the savings, He is an idiot and the entire coalition is imploding. Those who have been getting away with exploiting the unemployed, mentally and physically disabled and sick people in general will have to pay the piper for their involvement. Rather like the Nazi’s did after WW2.. they may say “I only kept the books and took the numbers”.. they were still found guilty and executed. We may live in a more civilized time with a so-called democracy but when you support right-wing parties they tend to veer towards fascism in extreme cases and those who support such ideals of right-wing “nobody should be dependent or taken care of be them unemployed, mentally/physically disabled” and also take away the means for people to get out of that position…then it’s clear.

David Cameron is so stupid to think that Food Banks are “The Big Society” in full effect!.. IT IS NOT! it is society trying to survive under the jackboot of Eton, oxford and harrow educated fascist policies under the invisible banner of Mosley’s black shirts, nobody needs an history lesson regarding the events along cable street at that time and we certainly do not want to go there again in the 21st century. If you don’t know about Oswald Mosley I suggest you Google it and you will see an example of how it was then and how we don’t need to ever go there again. Charities should be absolutely ashamed of themselves getting involved with these schemes, this only goes to prove the integrity of well known charitable organisations are tainted by the lust for money and access to enforced free slavery with little or no advantage to the individuals in these positions… those being forced to do it have no choice but the organisations choosing to be part of these dirty schemes certainly do have that choice and the choice should be not to get involved if they had any integrity, they have proven what many of us already know… they are merely a capitalist front because mistakes like this are not made and they went into these schemes with their eye’s wide open with no excuses even if they choose to leave after all this time.

UK POVERTY IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE – FOR EVERYONE
MAY 29, 2014 / JAYNEL62
This is an email I felt had to be wriiten, it was sent to Paul O’ Grady in response to his article on Child Poverty in yesterday’s Mirror – sent to him via his website email



Dear Paul


Further to your article in the Mirror today, whilst I totally agree with you, I wish you and others concerned with this disgraceful situation,would also acknowledge this problem extends to include Millions of disabled, elderly and other vulnerable people; in fact dozens of disabled people are dying weekly and to date the figure since the inception of Welfare Reform could be as high as 38,000+

I totally concur with your points that poorer children are more likely to have mental health problems, and again this is the position with all people in poverty;
and I agree the current position should be a national disgrace, particularly whilst the Richest prosper disproportionally in the UK. Embarrassingly whilst the treatment of disabled people is so severe, our media, in the main ignores it, and yet other nationalities agree it warrants reporting in their National Press press, I refer to this article in Le Monde

I hope you can find the time to read the links as I’m sure you will agree that Poverty in the UK is a Disgrace regardless of the people it affects.

Regards

Jayne Linney
I’ll let you know if I get a response

thanks for all your advice chaps
i really can't be bothered to fight this for £100 and change; life's too short
anyway, that my justifiable gripe has had a good airing and on several social media sites is not such a bad return - and i thank all who have done so

in fact, this was a contract i "inherited" from my tenant who departed in 2011 and i confess it never occurred to me that it should be other than fair, and indeed, i'm not sure if i could have cancelled it at the time .... it didn't come into the equation

Good choice. Would you take a job that involved writing dozens of letters, travelling to court, giving evidence and having stress and then get paid £100 at the end of it? I guess you would want to be paid well into four figures for that.

Yes good sound solid decision Cyners.

At least 3.5 thousand people on twitter have seen your gripe with these scumsters.

Can you trust Cameroon with anything?



Match your words with action, David Cameron

It would be a good start to allow Britain to regain control of its extradition processes



If David Cameron falls at the first hurdle, he will certainly confirm the widespread view that the Conservatives are a lost cause for Eurosceptics Photo: AP



By Nigel Farage

6:00AM BST 29 May 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/10860528/Match-your-words-with-action-David-Cameron.html



Out of the ashes of his third place in the European elections, a new and stoutly Eurosceptic David Cameron appears to have emerged. The European Union must stop interfering so much in our national life, he says. He has branded it “too big, too bossy and too interfering”, and insists that the Brussels establishment must wake up to the message sent to it by voters.


Well, an opportunity has arisen for the Prime Minister to show he is serious when he says his guiding principle is “nation states wherever possible and Europe only where necessary”. For Britain is currently negotiating with the EU over whether to opt back into dozens of justice and home affairs measures that are being turned into European competencies under the Lisbon Treaty.


We could stay out of them all. That would, after all, tally with the Cameron principle of “nation states wherever possible”. But it seems that instead, the Prime Minister is going to hand control to the EU permanently in 35 areas, the most notable of which is the European Arrest Warrant (EAW). It was under this warrant, remember, that Andrew Symeou was held in a Greek prison for four years before being cleared of involvement in a killing outside a nightclub.


There is nothing necessary about allowing the EU to acquire the power to extradite British citizens on demand. Opting back in will mean the European Public Prosecutor gains the power to instruct national judges to issue arrest warrants. Extradition will become automatic, on the say-so of this all-powerful figure.


This country has been managing extradition processes with other countries for centuries. Our courts have largely proved adept at balancing the rights of British citizens with the rights of foreign jurisdictions to uphold law and order. Extradition applications have been looked at on their merits, and the strength of the case weighed in the balance, without the automaticity of the EAW. This still works well in respect of many countries across the world: one thinks of the extradition of Shrien Dewani to South Africa last month to stand trial on a murder charge.


That kind of extradition process respects national sovereignty, and is an example of independent nation states cooperating to their mutual benefit. But the EAW is a very different animal indeed. It hands over legal sovereignty to the European Union. It is more like rendition than extradition. No prima facie evidence is required, and national judges have almost no discretion so long as the paperwork is in order. In many of the inquisitorial legal systems on continental Europe, the consequences of extradition can involve being held in custody for questioning for years at a time.

In a rational world, one would expect liberal opinion to be up in arms about this idea. But because it is about surrendering national sovereignty to Brussels, there is barely a squeak. Indeed, Nick Clegg is a particular cheerleader for the EAW, and championed it in his televised debates with me in March and April.

The main reason he cited for submitting to the EAW was the need for a shared anti-terrorist effort. But in reality, the warrant is increasingly being deployed in much more mundane cases. Britons of good character are learning, to their utter incredulity, that they can be carted off at the flick of a pen. This hardly accords with the British legal tradition of “innocent until proven guilty”.

I have never been soft on crime, and never will be. But our legal system evolved to include an extradition process that protected the ancient legal rights of individuals against the state, long before anyone thought of the EU, let alone the EAW. Our justice system is deeply embedded in our society and culture – and for all its faults, still commands a basic level of respect and assent.

Being in charge of your own legal affairs is a basic signifier of a nation. If you don’t have it, then you are just an imperial outpost. So if Mr Cameron is remotely serious about his mission to defend Britain’s sovereignty, he should not be opting into the EAW – or a raft of other EU home affairs and justice measures.

This is the first big test of Mr Cameron’s new-found Eurosceptic backbone. I would like to think he will pass it. But observing the behaviour of every Tory leader since Margaret Thatcher leads me to doubt that profoundly.

The European election results have shown that the British people have had enough of the salami-slicing of their sovereignty. Far be it from me to advise Mr Cameron on how to re-engage with Eurosceptic opinion, let alone to restore some of his lost credibility. But if he falls at the first hurdle, he will certainly confirm the widespread view that the Conservatives are a lost cause for Eurosceptics. That would be a gain for my party, Ukip, but a loss for my nation. I find myself hoping against hope that the Prime Minister will surprise me on this score.

I read Farage's article above (in today's Telegraph) over my breakfast this AM

I join with him in passing the opinion that there is quite a lot we want back from Europe by way of determining our own national position on things. Cameron would most certainly do himself, and us, a power of good if he were to explain what he thinks they are or could be and how he might set about achieving such demands as a goal.

I saw Tony Blair on TV a few mornings ago and was greatly impressed. Blair takes the strong opinion (as does Ed Miliband) that there is no future for us outside Europe.

But we should lay the law down to them strongly and even threaten to leave if our sensible demands cannot be met.

Opinions of European citizens on the respective role of national governments and the European Union in major policy fields:

Policy field.........................Share of respondents.........................Share of respondents
.......................................considering that................................considering that
.......................................decisions should be............................decisions should be
.......................................made by national...............................made jointly within the
.......................................governments.....................................European Union


Economy............................45%.............................................. 51%
Fight against inflation...........42%...............................................54%
Support for regions facing
economic difficulties.............34%...............................................62%
Unemployment.....................57%...............................................40%
Social security.....................65%...............................................32%
Health................................64%...............................................33%
Pensions.............................70%...............................................26%
Immigration.........................36%...............................................60%
Taxation.............................66%...............................................29%
Educational system...............64%...............................................33%
Competition.........................35%...............................................57%
Energy................................33%...............................................63%
Transport............................48%...............................................48%
Defence and foreign affairs.....31%...............................................64%
Fight against terrorism...........18%...............................................79%
Insecurity............................38%...............................................59%
Environmental protection........30%...............................................67%
Agriculture and fishery...........44%...............................................50%
Consumer protection..............48%...............................................48%
Scientific and technological
research..............................24%...............................................72%

So lots to disagree with there then!

Cynic re-to your earlier problems just found they have tweeted to me please see below..........

This was in reply to that statement you wanted me to distribute........and did twice...... he he.

Choice Telecoms ‏@choicetelecoms 6h

@---------- Sorry to hear you are having problems. Please let us know if we can help. We offer 24/7 UK Support, 30 day rolling contracts............................ends.


Any further help required Cyners??

Where did they hold the poll...€U central office?

Their header on Twitter.......

Choice Telecoms
@choicetelecoms FOLLOWS YOU
Telecoms for Small Businesses

United Kingdom, Nationwide · choicetelecoms.co.uk

MaxK,

Probably...

On a lighter note, guess what this is:



You guessed correctly! It's an armadillo - a three-banded armadillo.

The three-banded armadillo is in danger of extinction, largely because of deforestation and hunting in its habitat in the shrub lands of north eastern Brazil. Those risks in large part are why the armadillo was chosen as the World Cup Mascot.

Another is that when it's frightened, it rolls up into a ball small enough to fit into one hand, looking like a tan soccer ball.