Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Yes good sound solid decision Cyners.

At least 3.5 thousand people on twitter have seen your gripe with these scumsters.

Can you trust Cameroon with anything?



Match your words with action, David Cameron

It would be a good start to allow Britain to regain control of its extradition processes



If David Cameron falls at the first hurdle, he will certainly confirm the widespread view that the Conservatives are a lost cause for Eurosceptics Photo: AP



By Nigel Farage

6:00AM BST 29 May 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/10860528/Match-your-words-with-action-David-Cameron.html



Out of the ashes of his third place in the European elections, a new and stoutly Eurosceptic David Cameron appears to have emerged. The European Union must stop interfering so much in our national life, he says. He has branded it “too big, too bossy and too interfering”, and insists that the Brussels establishment must wake up to the message sent to it by voters.


Well, an opportunity has arisen for the Prime Minister to show he is serious when he says his guiding principle is “nation states wherever possible and Europe only where necessary”. For Britain is currently negotiating with the EU over whether to opt back into dozens of justice and home affairs measures that are being turned into European competencies under the Lisbon Treaty.


We could stay out of them all. That would, after all, tally with the Cameron principle of “nation states wherever possible”. But it seems that instead, the Prime Minister is going to hand control to the EU permanently in 35 areas, the most notable of which is the European Arrest Warrant (EAW). It was under this warrant, remember, that Andrew Symeou was held in a Greek prison for four years before being cleared of involvement in a killing outside a nightclub.


There is nothing necessary about allowing the EU to acquire the power to extradite British citizens on demand. Opting back in will mean the European Public Prosecutor gains the power to instruct national judges to issue arrest warrants. Extradition will become automatic, on the say-so of this all-powerful figure.


This country has been managing extradition processes with other countries for centuries. Our courts have largely proved adept at balancing the rights of British citizens with the rights of foreign jurisdictions to uphold law and order. Extradition applications have been looked at on their merits, and the strength of the case weighed in the balance, without the automaticity of the EAW. This still works well in respect of many countries across the world: one thinks of the extradition of Shrien Dewani to South Africa last month to stand trial on a murder charge.


That kind of extradition process respects national sovereignty, and is an example of independent nation states cooperating to their mutual benefit. But the EAW is a very different animal indeed. It hands over legal sovereignty to the European Union. It is more like rendition than extradition. No prima facie evidence is required, and national judges have almost no discretion so long as the paperwork is in order. In many of the inquisitorial legal systems on continental Europe, the consequences of extradition can involve being held in custody for questioning for years at a time.

In a rational world, one would expect liberal opinion to be up in arms about this idea. But because it is about surrendering national sovereignty to Brussels, there is barely a squeak. Indeed, Nick Clegg is a particular cheerleader for the EAW, and championed it in his televised debates with me in March and April.

The main reason he cited for submitting to the EAW was the need for a shared anti-terrorist effort. But in reality, the warrant is increasingly being deployed in much more mundane cases. Britons of good character are learning, to their utter incredulity, that they can be carted off at the flick of a pen. This hardly accords with the British legal tradition of “innocent until proven guilty”.

I have never been soft on crime, and never will be. But our legal system evolved to include an extradition process that protected the ancient legal rights of individuals against the state, long before anyone thought of the EU, let alone the EAW. Our justice system is deeply embedded in our society and culture – and for all its faults, still commands a basic level of respect and assent.

Being in charge of your own legal affairs is a basic signifier of a nation. If you don’t have it, then you are just an imperial outpost. So if Mr Cameron is remotely serious about his mission to defend Britain’s sovereignty, he should not be opting into the EAW – or a raft of other EU home affairs and justice measures.

This is the first big test of Mr Cameron’s new-found Eurosceptic backbone. I would like to think he will pass it. But observing the behaviour of every Tory leader since Margaret Thatcher leads me to doubt that profoundly.

The European election results have shown that the British people have had enough of the salami-slicing of their sovereignty. Far be it from me to advise Mr Cameron on how to re-engage with Eurosceptic opinion, let alone to restore some of his lost credibility. But if he falls at the first hurdle, he will certainly confirm the widespread view that the Conservatives are a lost cause for Eurosceptics. That would be a gain for my party, Ukip, but a loss for my nation. I find myself hoping against hope that the Prime Minister will surprise me on this score.

I read Farage's article above (in today's Telegraph) over my breakfast this AM

I join with him in passing the opinion that there is quite a lot we want back from Europe by way of determining our own national position on things. Cameron would most certainly do himself, and us, a power of good if he were to explain what he thinks they are or could be and how he might set about achieving such demands as a goal.

I saw Tony Blair on TV a few mornings ago and was greatly impressed. Blair takes the strong opinion (as does Ed Miliband) that there is no future for us outside Europe.

But we should lay the law down to them strongly and even threaten to leave if our sensible demands cannot be met.

Opinions of European citizens on the respective role of national governments and the European Union in major policy fields:

Policy field.........................Share of respondents.........................Share of respondents
.......................................considering that................................considering that
.......................................decisions should be............................decisions should be
.......................................made by national...............................made jointly within the
.......................................governments.....................................European Union


Economy............................45%.............................................. 51%
Fight against inflation...........42%...............................................54%
Support for regions facing
economic difficulties.............34%...............................................62%
Unemployment.....................57%...............................................40%
Social security.....................65%...............................................32%
Health................................64%...............................................33%
Pensions.............................70%...............................................26%
Immigration.........................36%...............................................60%
Taxation.............................66%...............................................29%
Educational system...............64%...............................................33%
Competition.........................35%...............................................57%
Energy................................33%...............................................63%
Transport............................48%...............................................48%
Defence and foreign affairs.....31%...............................................64%
Fight against terrorism...........18%...............................................79%
Insecurity............................38%...............................................59%
Environmental protection........30%...............................................67%
Agriculture and fishery...........44%...............................................50%
Consumer protection..............48%...............................................48%
Scientific and technological
research..............................24%...............................................72%

So lots to disagree with there then!

Cynic re-to your earlier problems just found they have tweeted to me please see below..........

This was in reply to that statement you wanted me to distribute........and did twice...... he he.

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Any further help required Cyners??

Where did they hold the poll...€U central office?

Their header on Twitter.......

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MaxK,

Probably...

On a lighter note, guess what this is:



You guessed correctly! It's an armadillo - a three-banded armadillo.

The three-banded armadillo is in danger of extinction, largely because of deforestation and hunting in its habitat in the shrub lands of north eastern Brazil. Those risks in large part are why the armadillo was chosen as the World Cup Mascot.

Another is that when it's frightened, it rolls up into a ball small enough to fit into one hand, looking like a tan soccer ball.

please thank your pal for the offer of help, but broadcasting Chess's lack of ethics etc far and wide will fit the bill very well and has clearly hit the mark

very many thanks

bet not much of that EU poll was conducted in UK!

a very quick count of simple majorities ...
11 of the subjects should be controlled by Europe against only 6 by individual countries

it's the sort of poll that would rightly get ridiculed if put about by some daily rag

Have you Little Englanders considered all moving to the same area and then setting up your own "Little England Country" within it? You could then lobby the government for some sort of Independence/Self Government, something like Wales, Scotland or more recently Cornwall?

This place is probably to far north for most of you http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/uk/lakedistrictandcumbria/10752789/Saddleback-Mountain-for-sale-yours-for-1.75-million.html... But I think you may get the idea with a bit of intelligent thinking.

No takers? Bit further to go but how about this one then http://www.property.org.uk/unique/islands.shtml

Why don't you buy one of those islands Stan, and join the €U yourself?


Stanland?

I'm not a little Englander like most of you lot on here.. Go and go now.

Piers Morgan is on QT tonight.

I wonder what the questions will be about?

UKIP (and maybe the chance of a coalition with the Tories)
Cable and Clegg and the future of the Lib Dems
Military stuff - Blair/Bush and Iraq/Afghanistan

No, just an all out attack on UKIP by everyone (willets was subtle), usual loaded audience with a few exceptions.

UKIP burd gave the other panellists what for, and no mistake.


QT is becoming a waste of time.

Joey Burton ?

If there was a way to vote UKIP without helping a Labour win in the GE then a lot more would vote UKIP. Best result would be a CON/UKIP goverment ,its the only way they could get in power

BenefitsStreet • 2 hours ago





The first Newark by-election opinion poll is out. Not looking good for the LibDems:

Con 36%

UKIP 28%

Lab 27%

LibDems 5%



Lost the link, sorry.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-05-29/poll-tories-still-on-course-to-win-newark-by-election/

Poll: Tories still on course to win Newark by-election

The Tories are still on track to win the Newark by-election despite a massive Ukip surge, according to a poll.

Research by Survation for The Sun put the Conservatives on 36% in the constituency, ahead of Nigel Farage's party on 28% and Labour on 27%.

Poll out tonight showing that 75% of those who voted UKIP at last weeks elections will do so at the GE. !!!!!!!!!

Devastating news for the Tories.