mitzy
- 10 Oct 2008 06:29
iturama
- 26 Sep 2012 13:29
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Lloyd's of London, not Lloyds TSB. Different entities.
ahoj
- 26 Sep 2012 14:21
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Oops, really! Thanks.
ahoj
- 02 Oct 2012 10:43
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It shouldn't be a reason for the weakness.
HARRYCAT
- 02 Oct 2012 11:46
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UBS note out today:
"The UK banks have not heeded exhortations to raise external equity in our view as they simply do not need it. However, we see a risk that the market will focus the absolute equity level requirement as leading to a risk of new equity issuance, to the detriment of current equity value.
Banks are being asked to hold absolute levels of equity, rather than equity being expressed as a proportion of risk assets or total assets. This is a profound change and puts the UK seemingly at odds with all other major economies. However, we believe it is not in itself negative for banks - indeed both the FPC and the FSA characterise the changes in the round as aimed at increasing UK lending by the banks. However, each statement and several others recently from Bank of England officials ... have all focused on having banks raise equity. We believe that the market is likely to become concerned that the absolute levels of equity the banks are being asked to hold may be higher, or substantially higher, than their current equity bases.
* Net UK lending growth is set to be minimally or zero risk weighted. This is designed to encourage banks to lend, although we note the market and rating agencies will likely still look for capital to be held against incremental risk
* This follows from the Funding for Lending Scheme (announced in June) and links with the FSA's loosening of liquidity requirements, detailed in the recent statement. In isolation, the zero weight is positive for the banks and will encourage lending. However, we believe it is clear from the FPC statement that it believes banks may have losses still to recognise from legacy and current books and that therefore this zero risk weight is in effect a 'carrot' to be offered to potential equity investors in new bank equity issuance - the 'stick' being this requirement to increase equity.
We have reduced our price targets by 10% at RBS and 12% at Lloyds to recognise the uncertainty around the potential equity issuance given legacy issues at both; we have also delayed Lloyds dividend resumption into 2014E. Our new price targets are 292.5p and 44p and we move our rating on both to Neutral from Buy; limited upside also brings us back to Neutral from Buy on Barclays."
skinny
- 02 Oct 2012 11:53
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ahoj
- 02 Oct 2012 11:57
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Thanks,
These are old stories, being dealt with, now being repeated.
halifax
- 02 Oct 2012 12:02
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UBS opinion is "pot calling kettle black".
ahoj
- 04 Oct 2012 16:12
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Has been weak today as well. While every other bank is stable or on the rise.
It should change soon, IMO.
Stan
- 07 Oct 2012 12:05
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Reasons why please ahoj?
Balerboy
- 07 Oct 2012 20:39
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your beginning to sound much like cynic these days stan :)
Stan
- 07 Oct 2012 23:39
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.. You sure BB?

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ahoj
- 08 Oct 2012 00:20
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Lloyds Banking Group Plc (LLOY)’s plan to pay a first cash dividend since its 2008 bailout has sparked a dispute with regulators, the Sunday Times reported, without saying how it got the information.
The U.K.’s Financial Services Authority is threatening to block the payout to shareholders because the authority wants the lender to preserve its capital to protect against a possible breakup of the euro area, the newspaper said. Lloyds plans to pay the dividend in early 2014 from earnings generated in 2013, according to the report.
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HARRYCAT
- 08 Oct 2012 08:04
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So the government will get a divi in addition to the interest on the original bailout loan. Win, win for HMG.
skinny
- 15 Oct 2012 16:36
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A close above 40p (40.32) 12 month high is 40.93p
halifax
- 15 Oct 2012 16:44
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wow onwards and upwards only another £5 and some will get their money back!
skinny
- 15 Oct 2012 16:48
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Some already have!
ahoj
- 16 Oct 2012 10:20
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Currently 41.6p, well above 12 months high.
HARRYCAT
- 16 Oct 2012 12:35
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Michael Helsby at Merrill Lynch, ahead of Lloyds Q3 numbers on 1st November.
Lloyds releases 3Q12 results on 1 November. We are 4% ahead of U/L PBT consensus for FY12 and will be looking for evidence of NIM improvement and stabilizing core loan growth. We reiterate buy. For the numbers, we forecast £2.6bn NII, £2.0bn other income, total costs of £2.4bn and bad debts of £1.6bn (2Q12: £1.5bn). See Table 1 for a rec. between U/L, Mgmt and Statutory PBT.
When Lloyds presents its results, the positive funding backdrop accompanying the FLS will have been in place for several months. With Lloyds guiding towards a FY12 NIM of 193bps, it is reasonable to expect that the 3Q margin is higher than the 191bps reported in 2Q12 (whereas consensus has it flat to down). Equally, Lloyds has bought back c £8.5bn of debt YTD, with an estimated 2013 NIM uplift of ~5bps. Given the recent FSA changes to liquidity pool requirements, solid deposit growth and non-core run-off, how the shifting funding mix will impact NIM in 2013e will be a key question at the results, in our view.
Lloyds Core loan book has declined from £454bn in 2010 to £428bn at 1H12. Management is guiding for this to bottom-out next year. With the SME loan book already growing, Lloyds is looking for large corporate to stop shrinking in 2H12.
We will be looking for an update on these trends at the 3Q12 results.
We forecast Non Core assets of £114bn (1H12: £117bn). RWAs of £327bn, vs £332bn as of 1H12. This implies a core tier 1 ratio of 11.4% (1H12: 11.3%). Given recent focus on UK bank capital levels we would expect Lloyds to reiterate its goal of being prudently in excess of 10% Core Tier 1 when transition starts."
HARRYCAT
- 18 Oct 2012 15:54
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StockMarketWire.com
Investec has downgraded its recommendation on Lloyds Banking Group (LON:LLOY) to "sell" from "hold" ahead of the banks third quarter interim management statement due to be released on 1 November. The City broker has left its share price target unchanged at 36 pence. Analyst Ian Gordon commented: 'Lloyds is due to release its third quarter interim management statement on 1 November 2012. We are anticipating an underlying profit before tax of £0.6bn, with Net Interest Income £2.6bn, Other Income £2.0bn, costs £2.4bn and impairments £1.6bn. This equates to a Management profit before tax of £0.7bn, subject to quarterly fluctuations in a number of volatile items. After a net £0.6bn charge for exceptional items we expect a reported profit before tax of around £0.1bn, and an earnings per share close to zero our estimate is 0.04p per share. Our 36 pence target price remains unchanged, though with 16% absolute downside [to the current share price] we downgrade our recommendation to sell.'