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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 03 Jun 2014 10:09 - 41823 of 81564

European Commission urges UK to tax expensive homes more

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27675294


Should make George and Wavey Dave's day.

Interesting report showing up what the cons don't want the public to think about!

cynic - 03 Jun 2014 10:11 - 41824 of 81564

the european commission should mind its own f'ing business with regards to uk's domestic affairs and pay considerably more attention to the blatant extravagance, fraud and corruption in its own ranks

Fred1new - 03 Jun 2014 10:16 - 41825 of 81564

Why does this cartoon remind me of Manuel.





Manuel,


Talking about Sangatte,


Why and how did some of your ancestors get into the UK?



It seems like some like drawing the draw bridge when they are safe!

Chris Carson - 03 Jun 2014 10:24 - 41826 of 81564

Morning cynic, Kings Links down at the beach. It's a municipal course, three clubs play on it, Bon Accord, Northern and I'm a member of the Caledonian. The course not up to the standard of Royal Aberdeen obviously but a good challenge of the whites.

Haystack - 03 Jun 2014 10:31 - 41827 of 81564

This what the UKIP supporters have elected!

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/01/ukip-mep-roger-helmer-nhs-gay-cure_n_5427003.html



UKIP MEP Roger Helmer – who is running for Parliament this week in the Newark by-election – has claimed the NHS should fund ‘gay cure’ therapy.

A Ukip MEP has said the NHS should fund 'gay cure therapy'.

Roger Helmer, who is standing in the Newark by-election this week, suggested it is no different to treating trans-gender people.

Haystack - 03 Jun 2014 10:38 - 41828 of 81564

More mad UKIP supporters

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/newark-ukip-supporter-claims-that-gay-marriage-could-lead-to-people-marrying-pigs-9467543.html

A supporter of the Ukip party in Newark – the constituency where Roger Helmer is standing in next week’s by-election – has said allowing gay marriage could lead to people “marrying pigs.”

David Donegan, who is backing of Nigel Farage’s Euro-sceptic party, told The Guardian that “Civil partnership is absolutely fine, but gay marriage is appalling nonsense.”

jimmy b - 03 Jun 2014 10:39 - 41829 of 81564

That could happen in Norfolk Haystack ..

hilary - 03 Jun 2014 10:42 - 41830 of 81564

allowing gay marriage could lead to people “marrying pigs.”

I'm sure Roger Helmer would know all about that - his wife married a walrus.

cynic - 03 Jun 2014 10:43 - 41831 of 81564

amazingly fred, when my grandparents came over, the local jewish communities looked after their own, and of course there was no benefits systems in early 20th century

for jews who fled the nazis during the war, though they were assuredly political rather than economic refugees, their sponsors had to put up a bond or similar to guarantee that they would not be drain on the state

rather different from today's scenario don't you think?

Fred1new - 03 Jun 2014 10:51 - 41832 of 81564

David Cameron was told to tear up his economic policy by Brussels yesterday, hours after being warned by Angela Merkel that Britain faced being ignored over who should become President of the European Commission. The Prime Minister faced a double reminder of the difficulties in store on the eve of a critical G7 summit and urgent talks with the German Chancellor. – The Times

jimmy b - 03 Jun 2014 11:06 - 41833 of 81564

Imagine Brussels / Merkel telling Maggie Thatcher that , i don't think so ...

Shortie - 03 Jun 2014 11:09 - 41834 of 81564

Very good Hilary..!... I thought the Welsh had been marrying sheep for years now..

VICTIM - 03 Jun 2014 11:17 - 41835 of 81564

Sorry to be so dim here but , how come Merkel has appointed herself High Priestess of this god forsaken hell hole we find ourselves in .

ExecLine - 03 Jun 2014 11:24 - 41836 of 81564

Marriage, you say? Now there's a complicated thing!

For a start, there are lots of 'ins and outs' to it and which is pretty obvious really, because that is what it is mostly about.

Have a look what Wikipedia has to say about and you are in for one hell of a very long read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage

Haystack - 03 Jun 2014 12:20 - 41837 of 81564

Merkel is doing by economics what Hitler failed to do. We are heading for

The United States of Germany

Fred1new - 03 Jun 2014 12:46 - 41838 of 81564

Hays,

Take sedative and have a lie down in a dark room!

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What a number of little englanders on this board remind me of, is a person in a club grumbling about the qualities of the facilities of the club, which they are using and at the same time moaning about the membership fees being charged for being a member, but not being prepared to pay their membership fees or being prepared to improve those facilities.

Fred1new - 03 Jun 2014 12:51 - 41839 of 81564

Manuel,

I accept “that when my grandparents came over, the local jewish communities looked after their own,” and many of those communities still do so.

But many immigrants wishing to enter the UK, but refused at present would have similar support systems and probably provide and give back more to the UK society as a whole, than they would diminish it by.

But the UK is more developed and socially responsible society now and should be able to accept responsibilities for the past periods of plundering.

cynic - 03 Jun 2014 13:23 - 41840 of 81564

would they now .... believe that and you'll believe anything

of course, the jewish political refugees had to have money put with mouth, whereas this bunch of predominantly economic refugees need to produce no financial guarantees of any kind and patently see uk as a soft touch and pot of gold - as admitted by that bleeding-heart on the television

those in sangatte don't even have the excuse of being eu citizens
do i have any sympathy for their plight?
virtually none as any pain is pretty much self-inflicted

should the problem remain with and within france?
absolutely so

Fred1new - 03 Jun 2014 14:30 - 41841 of 81564

Manuel,

I would expect no more from you.

It would be difficult for you to aspire to what you obviously are not.

Little in, and less out, comes to mind!

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Is you leader running scared "again"?

(Reuters) - Prime Minister David Cameron's Conservative party promised on Monday to radically increase the Scottish government's spending powers if voters reject independence at a referendum in September and opt to stay in the United Kingdom.

The keenly awaited promise from the Conservatives over what further powers could be handed over from London if Scotland votes against independence at a Sept. 18 referendum followed similar plans unveiled by the two other major UK parties.

The Conservative party recommended giving the devolved Scottish parliament free reign to set income tax rates, air passenger duty, and greater control over welfare funding which would make Scotland accountable for 40 percent of its spending.


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This government is trying to shed its responsibility of "governing" and its actions.

"Devolution!"

It won't wash and at the GE the voters will be aware and vote accordingly!

goldfinger - 03 Jun 2014 14:41 - 41842 of 81564

AND THEIRS MORE CORRUPTION FRED.............

The depth of corruption in the Conservative Party’s new, privatised health system

n4s_nhs1.jpg?w=529&h=294You can’t call it a National Health Service any more, can you?

The corruption imposed on the system by the Conservative-led Coalition government has reached new depths with the award of huge contracts to companies that donate to the Conservative Party, and plans to stop the corrupt re-hiring of executives who had already received large payoffs – after this has already happened.

Especially to blame are the Liberal Tory Democrats who made sure that this desecration could take place by supporting it in Parliament.

Did anybody else find it laughable when the Telegraph reported plans for the Queen’s Speech this year to include stopping highly-paid civil servants and NHS executives from receiving large redundancy pay-offs and then being re-hired only a few months later?

The plan, apparently part of the legislative programme to be announced by Her Majesty tomorrow (Wednesday), is effectively fixing the barn door after the chickens have come home to roost; already thousands of NHS executives who were sacked from their jobs in the pre-Health and Social Care Act service have been re-hired – at great cost to the taxpayer – into the new one.

The new law won’t be able to stop any of them from doing what they have already done, and Treasury Financial Secretary Nicky Morgan’s claim that “We must make sure hard-earned taxpayers’ money is not being squandered” is meaningless.

Meanwhile, health companies have been rewarded with ‘NHS’ contracts worth almost 1,000 times as much as the money they have donated to the Conservative Party.

According to the Daily Mirror, Circle Health has been given £1.36 billion of health work after investors gave £1.5 million to the Tories; and Care UK – who bankrolled former Health Secretary Andrew Lansley with £21,000 during the seven years he was secretly working on the Health and Social Care Act while Tory leaders were denying any plans for the top-down reorganisation it would authorise – has won £102.6 million in contracts and its chairman John Nash has been made a lord, in return for a £247,250 donation to the Tories.

Shadow Health Secretary Andy Burnham was right to say, “Nobody gave David Cameron permission to sell the NHS to his friends.”

Nobody did – Cameron lied about his plans for the NHS throughout his 2010 general election campaign, and then failed to win a mandate from the electorate.

But this is what David Cameron’s NHS was always going to be – a gravy train for rich asset-strippers.

The only losers are the sick – and Tories couldn’t care less about them.

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