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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

iturama - 04 Jul 2016 20:29 - 4184 of 12628

Provided she delivers

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 20:34 - 4185 of 12628

She will. At least better than Labour anyway. She will have 4 years to get the hang of it. She survived being the Home Secretary well. The average length in post is 2 years plus. It is a very tough job. She has managed to be one of the longest serving ever since about 1890.

jimmy b - 04 Jul 2016 20:46 - 4186 of 12628

Haystack while your berating Farage for his poster ,what about your beloved Cameron and Osbourne's poster , this is what you would call really vile !



And tell me what would you have said if the Leave campaign had put up a muslim man shaking his fist at an old white lady . Discuss ?

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 20:57 - 4187 of 12628

The guy on the right is a UKIP voter. One of the rednecks.

jimmy b - 04 Jul 2016 21:13 - 4188 of 12628

Nothing to say then Haystack ,in fact that is just pure ignorant, your just as bad as Fred .

iturama - 04 Jul 2016 21:13 - 4189 of 12628

If he is a redneck then he is a long way from home. That is a disparaging term used by democrats in the USA for white workers in the Southern States. Something they fail to do about the crime ridden black neighbourhoods in the North.
To depict all UKippers as BNP is as wrong as casting all tories as toffs. That poster is a montage and intended to inflame. The UKIP poster was unnecessary but the photo was real.

cynic - 04 Jul 2016 21:17 - 4190 of 12628

you guys do make me laugh
so many of you sound like 2-year old children throwing mindless tantrums

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 21:17 - 4191 of 12628

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/redneck

a poor white person without education, especially one living in the countryside in the southern US, who has prejudiced (= unfair and unreasonable) ideas and beliefs

Note: It says especially and not only. Clearly applies to UKIP as well.

The highest Leave votes were in the areas of the poorest education.

jimmy b - 04 Jul 2016 21:19 - 4192 of 12628

cynic coming from you that's funny the person who over the years has had the most arguments on the BB's than anyone .

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cynic - 04 Jul 2016 21:32 - 4193 of 12628

in my dotage, i can now sit back like the eldest member of the pg wodehouse golfing stories :-)

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 21:36 - 4194 of 12628

You are even a couple of months older than me.

MaxK - 04 Jul 2016 21:40 - 4195 of 12628

Brexit live: Boris Johnson backs Andrea Leadsom for Tory leadership



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jul/04/brexit-live-plan-leave-vote-hysteria-boris-johnson

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 21:43 - 4196 of 12628

She might win. You can get about 11/4 for her. Not bad odds, May is 2/5

iturama - 04 Jul 2016 22:08 - 4197 of 12628

The highest Leave votes were in the areas of the poorest education.

I seem to remember that you and all your family voted out. If the boot fits comes to mind.

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 22:46 - 4198 of 12628

I live in an area where the majority voted Remain.

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 22:53 - 4199 of 12628

Boris and Leadsom are a good match, given that neither seemed to believe in Brexit a short while ago.

MaxK - 04 Jul 2016 23:37 - 4200 of 12628

That's a bit rich coming from a supporter of the candidate that has undergone a damascene conversion in the blink of an eye.

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 00:32 - 4201 of 12628

Conservative Leadership Contest: Andrea Leadsom In ‘Car Crash’ Performance At First Hustings

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/conservative-leadership-contest-andrea-leadsom-in-car-crash-performance-at-first-hustings_uk_577aaacae4b0f7b55795b23f

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 00:35 - 4202 of 12628

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dominic-grieve-brexit-second-eu-referendum-legal-former-attorney-general-says-7119491.html

Second EU referendum would be possible, former attorney general says
Research suggests as many as 1.2 million Leave voters now regret their vote

A second EU referendum could be justified if it becomes clear public opinion has shifted strongly against Brexit, the former attorney general has said.

Dominic Grieve, a Conservative MP who was the Government’s chief legal advisor until 2014, said the result of the first referendum had to be “treated with respect” but that it was not necessarily set in stone.

In correspondence seen and verified by The Independent Mr Grieve tells a constituent that the result of the first referendum cannot be ignored, but that a second plebiscite could become democratically justifiable.

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 00:37 - 4203 of 12628

Exc: Times/YouGov Tory members poll

In final round, May beats Leadsom by 32 points.

May 63%
Leadsom 31%
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