goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 03 Jun 2014 13:23
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would they now .... believe that and you'll believe anything
of course, the jewish political refugees had to have money put with mouth, whereas this bunch of predominantly economic refugees need to produce no financial guarantees of any kind and patently see uk as a soft touch and pot of gold - as admitted by that bleeding-heart on the television
those in sangatte don't even have the excuse of being eu citizens
do i have any sympathy for their plight?
virtually none as any pain is pretty much self-inflicted
should the problem remain with and within france?
absolutely so
Fred1new
- 03 Jun 2014 14:30
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Manuel,
I would expect no more from you.
It would be difficult for you to aspire to what you obviously are not.
Little in, and less out, comes to mind!
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Is you leader running scared "again"?
(Reuters) - Prime Minister David Cameron's Conservative party promised on Monday to radically increase the Scottish government's spending powers if voters reject independence at a referendum in September and opt to stay in the United Kingdom.
The keenly awaited promise from the Conservatives over what further powers could be handed over from London if Scotland votes against independence at a Sept. 18 referendum followed similar plans unveiled by the two other major UK parties.
The Conservative party recommended giving the devolved Scottish parliament free reign to set income tax rates, air passenger duty, and greater control over welfare funding which would make Scotland accountable for 40 percent of its spending.
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This government is trying to shed its responsibility of "governing" and its actions.
"Devolution!"
It won't wash and at the GE the voters will be aware and vote accordingly!
goldfinger
- 03 Jun 2014 14:41
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AND THEIRS MORE CORRUPTION FRED.............
The depth of corruption in the Conservative Party’s new, privatised health system

You can’t call it a National Health Service any more, can you?
The corruption imposed on the system by the Conservative-led Coalition government has reached new depths with the award of huge contracts to companies that donate to the Conservative Party, and plans to stop the corrupt re-hiring of executives who had already received large payoffs – after this has already happened.
Especially to blame are the Liberal Tory Democrats who made sure that this desecration could take place by supporting it in Parliament.
Did anybody else find it laughable when the Telegraph reported plans for the Queen’s Speech this year to include stopping highly-paid civil servants and NHS executives from receiving large redundancy pay-offs and then being re-hired only a few months later?
The plan, apparently part of the legislative programme to be announced by Her Majesty tomorrow (Wednesday), is effectively fixing the barn door after the chickens have come home to roost; already thousands of NHS executives who were sacked from their jobs in the pre-Health and Social Care Act service have been re-hired – at great cost to the taxpayer – into the new one.
The new law won’t be able to stop any of them from doing what they have already done, and Treasury Financial Secretary Nicky Morgan’s claim that “We must make sure hard-earned taxpayers’ money is not being squandered” is meaningless.
Meanwhile, health companies have been rewarded with ‘NHS’ contracts worth almost 1,000 times as much as the money they have donated to the Conservative Party.
According to the Daily Mirror, Circle Health has been given £1.36 billion of health work after investors gave £1.5 million to the Tories; and Care UK – who bankrolled former Health Secretary Andrew Lansley with £21,000 during the seven years he was secretly working on the Health and Social Care Act while Tory leaders were denying any plans for the top-down reorganisation it would authorise – has won £102.6 million in contracts and its chairman John Nash has been made a lord, in return for a £247,250 donation to the Tories.
Shadow Health Secretary Andy Burnham was right to say, “Nobody gave David Cameron permission to sell the NHS to his friends.”
Nobody did – Cameron lied about his plans for the NHS throughout his 2010 general election campaign, and then failed to win a mandate from the electorate.
But this is what David Cameron’s NHS was always going to be – a gravy train for rich asset-strippers.
The only losers are the sick – and Tories couldn’t care less about them.
Haystack
- 03 Jun 2014 14:47
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goldfinger
- 03 Jun 2014 14:48
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SUNDAY, 1 June 2014
A definitive list of £16.6bn of NHS Contracts offered to Private Profiteers on David Cameron's watch
NHS Contracts Tendered : £16.6bn NHS Tendered
http://www.greenbenchesuk.com/
cynic
- 03 Jun 2014 14:50
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so fred, you think i am the only one who thinks as i do here and in the much wider sphere of uk? ......
i would hazard, though it is virtually no bet, that it is you in your ivory tower who heads up the decided minority
truly spiffing thought of yours to open up the borders to every impecunious rag, tag and bobtail who fancies coming over and to hell with the rights of all who already live here ..... no doubt you'ld also champion their rights to free housing and all the other benefits purely because "oh dear; these poor dears are homeless ... of course we should give them priority"
goldfinger
- 03 Jun 2014 14:58
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The Private Rental Sector Is Out of Control And The Solution is Obvious
Posted on June 2, 2014
landlordsFor millions of the UK’s poorest people, the biggest weekly expense by far is the cost of buying someone much richer than them a house. Almost 4 million people now rent privately and many will live their entire lives without ever knowing what it is like to have a secure home. The gradual demolition of the social housing sector combined with buy-to-let vultures gobbling up low cost houses will only entrench this monstrous future.
No-one was ever asked whether this is a future anyone wants. Instead it is presented as inevitable – this is just something the free-market is doing to us that we have no control over. This is neo-liberal ideology at its most insidious. The only ones who benefit from the majority of the population living in insecure private rented housing are landlords and property investers. Therefore no alternative can even be imagined. It is a done deal and so the rich get richer and our lives get shitter.
This illusion is constantly re-enforced by those who benefit. Landlords will pull out of the market if tenants are given more rights they shrilly proclaim – as if buy-to-letters are all going to start paying their own mortages for a change. To back this up new laws are created, such as the ban on squatting in abandoned residential properties. If this law was removed then landlords leaving thousands of homes empty would almost certainly lead to the kind of squatting movement that was seen both after the second world war and in the 1970s when entire streets were squatted by homeless families. That is why no major political party opposed the squatting ban, the free-market must be protected with laws as well as lies.
The Labour Party is happy with this consensus. Ed Milliband talks about flimsy rights for private tenants, but never council houses for everyone that needs one. That even these wet proposals were met with howls of outrage from landlords reveal a private rented sector that is now out of control. Buy-to-let landlords even complain that the money they make from rents barely even allows them to make a decent profit, nimbly forgetting that they are not only also being bought a property, but that someone is paying them to live in it and look after it for them. These parasites seem to think that houses are free, probably because they are if you’re rich and immoral enough to convince a bank to give you a buy-to-let mortgage.
In truth nothing shows up the failure of the free-market run rampant then the private rental sector. Rents are now so high that the tax payer spends billions each year topping up the rent of even those in work via Housing Benefit. We are paying a fortune to keep landlords rich, whilst thousands still go homeless. The idea that a competitive market leads to the best for consumers is rendered laughable by the private rental sector. It is the customer, the tenant, who has to compete, jumping through endless hoops and shelling out a fortune just to get a roof over their heads. Landlords don’t increase profits by improving the service they offer, but by failing to carry out repairs, hiking rents and evicting anyone who complains. On some of the many internet forums devoted to landlords the contempt they hold for their tenants is staggeringly apparent, especially if they happen to rent to people on benefits. No other business would dare treat their customers this way.
Landlords discriminate at will. The vile No Blacks No Irish No Dogs of the past has been replaced with No DSS, which in practice means no lone parents, no disabled people, no unemployed people, or put more simply no-one poor. This is probably illegal, but no-one seems to care how landlords behave. A survey carried out by the government in 2010 found that almost half of private sector housing failed to meet the Decent Homes Standards. Many did not even meet the minimum health and safety standards required for housing. Don’t expect the Government to do anything about this, they believe that ‘peer pressure’ is better than regulation to manage private sector landlords.
From shortly after the second world war up until 1980 millions of council houses were built in England, Scotland and Wales. The answer to the housing crisis is boringly obvious. But instead of low cost secure social housing we get offered hugely expensive ‘affordable rents’ that no-one can afford. The so-called Living Wage isn’t even enough to pay Affordable Rents in many parts of the UK where they can run as high as several hundred pounds a week. The situation would be laughable if it wasn’t such a fucking disgrace and didn’t cause such acute suffering.
And yet not one of the politicians who claims to represent us will even consider any alternative to this profit-crazed exploitation of our most basic human need – a safe, secure and genuinely affordable home. This is hardly surprising. Around a third of MPs are landlords themselves. They really are all fucking in it together.
cynic
- 03 Jun 2014 15:08
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shame on you sticky, for we all know you're a landlord too (as am i but in a much smaller way)
of course there are rotten and exploitative landlords, but that has been so throughout history
but equally, as you will know far better than me, there are many truly dreadful tenants
Fred1new
- 03 Jun 2014 15:10
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Manuel,
"so fred, you think i am the only one who thinks as i do here and in the much wider sphere of uk? ......"
Thankfully, I am not responsible for the company you keep.
Much of your diatribes would wash well with the BNP, UKIP and the disconnected Right winger of the "said" present tory party!
Those who depend on fragmentation of society to gain their own acceptance.
As far as voluble populists, similar to yourself, are concerned, blaming everybody else for their problems is the juvenile level that they operate and Cameron and Osborne rhetoric appeals to them.
My guess is, that at the next General Election much of what is being spouted at the moment, by loony isolationists, yourself included, will be dismissed by those who vote and there will be a coalition of the moderate and left central political parties.
The tories in their present clothes will be rejected and UKIP will have less following that they expect.
We will see!
But be careful who you associate with. You may end up more tarred than you already are!
Fred1new
- 03 Jun 2014 15:14
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GF.
I await the G/E with interest and expect Labour and other parties (Greens) will at that time itemise the failures and U-turns of this appalling period of tory government.
Also, I hope they expose the privatisation of public services and corrupt deals which have occurred with private contractors.
goldfinger
- 03 Jun 2014 15:17
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Cyners........IM NOT A RENT TO BUY LANDLORD.
Again you havent read the article properly.
Theirs nothing wrong with Responsible Landlords, this article isnt about Responsible Housing.
cynic
- 03 Jun 2014 15:19
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as usual i haven't bothered to read yet another diatribe thoroughly, for its tribal parentage is immediately apparent
out of genuine curiosity .... if you are not a "buy-to-let landlord", how would you describe yourself for i know you have a fair number of properties which you then rent out?
goldfinger
- 03 Jun 2014 15:20
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Here here Fred, more and more people are now realising what a cruel and corrupt government we have.
The Lib/Dems have paid dearly the torries are next, you can count on that.
goldfinger
- 03 Jun 2014 15:21
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Stan, he he ha ha, brilliant............ fair tickled me.
goldfinger
- 03 Jun 2014 15:21
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Stan, he he ha ha, brilliant............ fair tickled me.
cynic
- 03 Jun 2014 15:24
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i too find it humorous, not least because i certainly do not see myself as being particularly right wing though relative to you ersatz socialists, perhaps i am
Stan
- 03 Jun 2014 15:26
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"not least because i certainly do not see myself as being right wing"
.. He's a laugh a minute isn't he? -):
Haystack
- 03 Jun 2014 15:31
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As opposed to the socialists, who have no sense of humour!
goldfinger
- 03 Jun 2014 15:33
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Cyners the capital I place in new lettings comes from my personal savings pot. Its all organic pyramid capital growth.
Not one penny do I borrow to finance my growing property empire. Its all internaly funded, I cant say that for 2 of our 7 synndicate. I do know they borrow from the bank some of their investment. But its certainly not the bespoke buy to let funding the article points to.
I also rent out on usual at about 10% lower than the max rent payable as laid down by the local council/quango fair market rent policy.
Im now on my 5th high flat development which is not the norm for tennants more short term business men with short stay, the top few floors going to hign nett wealthy individuals.
Im certainly not the rent to buy landlord as described in that article and you seem to have mistaken the whole point of the authors negative take on the rental housing market.