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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 21:17 - 4191 of 12628

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/redneck

a poor white person without education, especially one living in the countryside in the southern US, who has prejudiced (= unfair and unreasonable) ideas and beliefs

Note: It says especially and not only. Clearly applies to UKIP as well.

The highest Leave votes were in the areas of the poorest education.

jimmy b - 04 Jul 2016 21:19 - 4192 of 12628

cynic coming from you that's funny the person who over the years has had the most arguments on the BB's than anyone .

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cynic - 04 Jul 2016 21:32 - 4193 of 12628

in my dotage, i can now sit back like the eldest member of the pg wodehouse golfing stories :-)

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 21:36 - 4194 of 12628

You are even a couple of months older than me.

MaxK - 04 Jul 2016 21:40 - 4195 of 12628

Brexit live: Boris Johnson backs Andrea Leadsom for Tory leadership



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jul/04/brexit-live-plan-leave-vote-hysteria-boris-johnson

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 21:43 - 4196 of 12628

She might win. You can get about 11/4 for her. Not bad odds, May is 2/5

iturama - 04 Jul 2016 22:08 - 4197 of 12628

The highest Leave votes were in the areas of the poorest education.

I seem to remember that you and all your family voted out. If the boot fits comes to mind.

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 22:46 - 4198 of 12628

I live in an area where the majority voted Remain.

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 22:53 - 4199 of 12628

Boris and Leadsom are a good match, given that neither seemed to believe in Brexit a short while ago.

MaxK - 04 Jul 2016 23:37 - 4200 of 12628

That's a bit rich coming from a supporter of the candidate that has undergone a damascene conversion in the blink of an eye.

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 00:32 - 4201 of 12628

Conservative Leadership Contest: Andrea Leadsom In ‘Car Crash’ Performance At First Hustings

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/conservative-leadership-contest-andrea-leadsom-in-car-crash-performance-at-first-hustings_uk_577aaacae4b0f7b55795b23f

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 00:35 - 4202 of 12628

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dominic-grieve-brexit-second-eu-referendum-legal-former-attorney-general-says-7119491.html

Second EU referendum would be possible, former attorney general says
Research suggests as many as 1.2 million Leave voters now regret their vote

A second EU referendum could be justified if it becomes clear public opinion has shifted strongly against Brexit, the former attorney general has said.

Dominic Grieve, a Conservative MP who was the Government’s chief legal advisor until 2014, said the result of the first referendum had to be “treated with respect” but that it was not necessarily set in stone.

In correspondence seen and verified by The Independent Mr Grieve tells a constituent that the result of the first referendum cannot be ignored, but that a second plebiscite could become democratically justifiable.

Haystack - 05 Jul 2016 00:37 - 4203 of 12628

Exc: Times/YouGov Tory members poll

In final round, May beats Leadsom by 32 points.

May 63%
Leadsom 31%

Dil - 05 Jul 2016 01:23 - 4204 of 12628

Haystack - 04 Jul 2016 15:41 - 4156 of 4203

UKIP appeals to the lowest common denominator in society. It is no surprise that their only MP is from an area populated by rednecks.!


Oh well just as we have been getting along so well you call me the lowest common denominator !


Tell me what you would have done in the Welsh Assembley Elections last month before the referendum ?

a} vote Conservative and back Cammy's view (remain vote)
b) vote Plaid Cymru ... bigger idiots than the SNP (remain vote)
c) vote Corbyn ... stick a red rossette on a monkey in most of Wales and it would win ( remain vote)
d) vote UKIP ... feck the EU (out vote)


If Wales had voted remain and Labour had won a majority in the Welsh Assembly then the Brexit vote would have been 3 countries against 1.

UKIP swung the Welsh vote.

Dil - 05 Jul 2016 01:30 - 4205 of 12628

As for "rednecks" ...

Tories imo are party full of most racist but keep it behind closed doors

Labour are so anti Israel its embarrassing but embrace terrorist nations ( Fred's a prime example)

UKIP are openly anti EU , hows that racist ?

.... or am I misunderstanding the term rednecks in which case I apologise.

Dil - 05 Jul 2016 01:41 - 4206 of 12628

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Dil - 05 Jul 2016 01:58 - 4207 of 12628

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Dil - 05 Jul 2016 01:58 - 4208 of 12628

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iturama - 05 Jul 2016 06:07 - 4209 of 12628

One of Britain’s biggest overseas investors has dismissed Treasury warnings that foreign companies will shun the UK when it leaves the European Union.

In a coup for Brexit supporters, the UK boss of American manufacturer General Electric said Britain remains attractive for investors despite the uncertainty created by the referendum result.

Mark Elborne’s comments came as a credit rating agency said yesterday that dire warnings of ‘Armageddon’ after Brexit were overdone and the UK will avoid a full-blown recession. In the run-up to the EU referendum opponents of leaving the EU predicted that Britain faced recession and economic meltdown if the country voted to leave.

But now Standard & Poor’s has said it does not foresee this scenario – and forecast that the UK would ‘escape a full-fledged recession’.

Jean-Michel Six, the rating agency’s chief economist for Europe, told The Daily Telegraph: ‘We’re not in the Armageddon camp. Devaluation acts as a shock absorber. It stimulates exports and makes the London Stock Exchange more attractive to foreign investors.’

iturama - 05 Jul 2016 06:17 - 4210 of 12628

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So it sounds like your neighbours will not be too happy with having rednecks like you. Lowers the tone of the place. You are an archetypal Tory snob Hays. As Dil says, closet racists. Love diversity as long as it is not next door.
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