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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 05 Jun 2014 08:16 - 41945 of 81564

murray/monfils
if one didn't know better, or if this had been a cricket match in another region of the world, one might have asked for an investigation into betting activity :-)

i only watched the last hour or so of grunting, but what an extraordinary turn-around

cynic - 05 Jun 2014 08:46 - 41946 of 81564

Ireland's Roman Catholic Church told the order of nuns who ran the former home where a mass grave of almost 800 children was found that it must co-operate with any inquiry into the discovery.
Ireland is considering an investigation into what the government called a "deeply disturbing" discovery of an unmarked graveyard at a former home run by the Bon Secours Sister where 796 children died between 1925 and 1961.


CONSIDERING????!!!!

MaxK - 05 Jun 2014 09:54 - 41947 of 81564

Yes, a strange way of putting it.

Do the have a choice in the matter?

cynic - 05 Jun 2014 10:00 - 41948 of 81564

i'm sorry to say that the catholic church has a deservedly very tarnished reputation for sweeping "nasty bits" under the carpet ..... i suppose one shouldn't mention Pius Xll of fairly recent times, but i shall

Haystack - 05 Jun 2014 10:21 - 41949 of 81564

It is the same with all religious groups. I have seen abuse stories related to most major religions. The Catholic church does have a specific problem due to its celibacy rules.

Fred1new - 05 Jun 2014 10:47 - 41950 of 81564

So did the pagans!

Haystack - 05 Jun 2014 11:06 - 41951 of 81564

It may be that the delusional beliefs of people attracted to official positions within religious bodies go hand in hand with other abherrant and deviant behaviour.

Fred1new - 05 Jun 2014 11:21 - 41952 of 81564

Sounds like the tory party to me!

goldfinger - 05 Jun 2014 12:39 - 41953 of 81564

Hope your enjoying yourself Max, .....silly question.

ahoj - 05 Jun 2014 16:22 - 41954 of 81564

I can't wait to see how the new European parliament perform. Some of them are not fat cats and will perform independently.

That should be good for the Europeans.

cynic - 05 Jun 2014 16:33 - 41955 of 81564

you'ld be amazed how quickly a diet of foie gras and choucroute in strasbourg varied with fine french cooking and chocolates in brussels all leavened with lovely and juicy tax-free income quickly changes the bmi!

goldfinger - 05 Jun 2014 17:07 - 41956 of 81564

Shame of British press as private health’s failure is blamed on the NHS
05 Thursday Jun 2014.
Posted by Mike Sivier in Conservative Party, Corruption, Health, Media, Politics

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Daily Telegraph headline this morning: “15 babies poisoned by NHS drips”.

Terrifying – and entirely inaccurate.

Oh, 15 babies were poisoned by drips – and one has sadly died as a result – but the contamination is believed to have come from liquid feed manufactured by a private, London-based health company called ITH Pharma Ltd, and not from any equipment provided by the National Health Service.

Lazy reporting – or part of an ongoing campaign against the NHS by the privatisation-crazy right-wing press?

If the latter, it clearly backfired – as the public backlash against the story demonstrates.

Look at the ‘Comment’ column following the article. ‘Cochranereturns’ wrote: “Another headline from the DT trying to pin blame on the NHS when the fault lies outside the organisation. I complained to the Press Complaints Commission under clause one of their charter about the following headline last week: “NHS breaks promises after staff torture patients at Winterbourne View”: the PCC responded within 24 hours (and the DT removed the link I’d complained about). I suggest people do the same about this article.”

‘Cydee’: “Bad reporting.”

‘Mynydd’: “This is the result the right wing media, and Mr Cameron/Hunt’s philosophy that private companies through competition will always produce the cheapest product, quality, and quality control is of secondary importance.”

‘Percypottamus’ warns: “Much more blatantly Tory-inspired anti-NHS propaganda like this and I will be cancelling my subscription.” Good for you, Sir!

‘Ostercy’: “Odd how you try to blame the NHS for this and not private medicine.”

‘NitroFan’ raised another aspect of the ongoing NHS saga – the too-close relationship between private health firms and the MPs they sponsor, and to whose parties they donate. Or, as ‘NitroFan’ put it: “I would be extremely interested (doubt I am alone) to know who owns ITH Pharma Ltd and the basis on which their contract was awarded! And who awarded it!”

Wouldn’t we all?

On the Vox Political Facebook page, coverage of the story was universally condemned as well. “As usual blame socialised medicine and not the private company contracted to provide the service (devices) in the first place,” commented ‘The Bullingdon Club’.

Sean Young picked up on the obvious inconsistency in the way the story was presented: “Clearly the way to stop such terrible deaths caused by the incompetence of a private company is to increase privatisation!” Riiiiight…

And that’s just the reaction to the story in the Daily Telegraph. The image at the top of this article presents our favourite Angry Yorkshireman’s opinion of the Murdoch Media version of these events.

It won’t change the way these ignorant right-wingers try to influence your thinking but it is encouraging to see that the once-impressionable British public is having none of it.

The worm – it appears – has turned.

cynic - 05 Jun 2014 17:17 - 41957 of 81564

surely virtually all drugs are supplied by private/public companies but that said, it is assuredly not NHS's responsibility to test the stuff for purity or whatever


on the other hand, to write such consummate nonsense as "too-close relationship between private health firms and the MPs they sponsor" just diminishes the whole argument .... similarly idiotic would be to blame the labour party when a union takes strike action

goldfinger - 05 Jun 2014 17:37 - 41958 of 81564

The point is the irresponsible right wing press.

But the worm as turned. The British public are revolting against them.

Haystack - 05 Jun 2014 18:08 - 41959 of 81564

The problem is the raving lefty Mike Sivier. He usually gets his stories wrong and twists the facts to suit his blog. Of course gf is one of his accolites and he laps it up.

Haystack - 05 Jun 2014 18:10 - 41960 of 81564

I suppose we are looking at a decent Conservative victory in Newark tonight.

ExecLine - 05 Jun 2014 18:22 - 41961 of 81564

Gary Glitter (Paul Gadd) charged with eight counts of sexual offences against girls.

The charges relate to two women who were aged between 12 and 14 at the time of the alleged offences between 1977 and 1980.

The former pop star - real name Paul Gadd - is due to appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on 19 June.

The Crown Prosecution Service said no further action would be taken over five allegations made by two other people.

(More on the link above)

cynic - 05 Jun 2014 19:04 - 41962 of 81564

well that's assuredly the tories fault; no getting away from it

cynic - 05 Jun 2014 19:05 - 41963 of 81564

sticks - i'm not remotely interested in who likes what newspaper, but the content of the article you posted wrecks a valid point by descending into preposterous polemic

goldfinger - 05 Jun 2014 19:09 - 41964 of 81564

Bollocks.
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