ARUCHUNA
- 27 Jan 2004 12:00
NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS LITTLE RASCAL-WHATS HAPPENING-ANY NEWS ABOUT MERGER-THERE IS RUMOURS THAT IT COULD VALUED AS MUCH AS 10P A SHARE-IS IT TRUE??IF ANY ONE KNOWS ANYTHING PLEASE REPLY-I COULDN'T BELEIVE THAT PEOPLE STOPPED WRITING ABOUT THIS SINCE THE MERGER ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE-BUT PLENTY OF SUGGESTIONS AND POSITIVE NOTES BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT-IS IT GOING BUST???????
CaptainNaylor
- 24 Mar 2004 15:00
- 42 of 104
Well this little bugger has got me a spin do i sell or hold, was really confident of this play playing off, but as time draws on I'm getting more and more anxious about selling. Has anyone checked out cityequities.com, if you look up IAL on their web site everyday there is something about rule 8, anyone know what this means???????? Please help anyone!!!!!!!!
doc shilling
- 24 Mar 2004 17:40
- 43 of 104
Rule 8.3 (ie disclosure because of ownership or control of 1%
or more of the class of relevant securities dealt in)
Announcement rule * relates to 5,000,000 Xtrade on the 23rd
DISCLOSURE UNDER RULES 8.1(a), 8.1(b)(i) and 8.3
OF THE CITY CODE ON TAKEOVERS AND MERGERS
Date of dealing 23/03/04
Dealing in INTER ALLIANCE GROUP PLC (name of company)
1) Class of securities (eg ordinary shares) ORD
2) Amount bought Amount sold Price per unit
5,000,0000.0175
3) Resultant total of the same class owned or controlled
(and percentage of class) 71,804,199 (7.93%)
Party making disclosure SOCIETE GENERALE ASSET MANAGEMENT UK LIMITED
What I think is interesting is that these institutions are buying in at discounted rates ie 5 ,000,000 X trade @ 1.75p bought by the comp,Yet on the 23rd the trade looked like a sell at that price.
Good to see them buying in.
thomsonrj
- 26 Mar 2004 15:23
- 44 of 104
Does anyone know the exact date which the results are due, or where I can find such info. thanks
CaptainNaylor
- 28 Mar 2004 21:04
- 45 of 104
If you all look up IAL on cityequities.com then you'll see that their are investment companies investing in IAL. Perhaps they know something about the merger that we don't?
CaptainNaylor
- 28 Mar 2004 21:05
- 46 of 104
1% of the shares at a time!!!!!!!!!!!!11
thomsonrj
- 08 Apr 2004 11:24
- 47 of 104
WHEN ARE THE RESULTS DUE? ANY ROUGH IDEAS?
sirtoven
- 08 Apr 2004 12:07
- 48 of 104
Some significant dates from last year might give a rough idea;
18/03/03 update :FY losses wider than expected
16/05/03 notice of results
20/05/03 Final results
You will get this info if you click on the news tab on this site.That's the best I can do unless someone has more.
Regards
Sirtoven
CaptainNaylor
- 15 Apr 2004 15:07
- 49 of 104
inter alliance drifting sideways and slightly down after a very quiet spell, wonder why the price has been weakened, perhaps news is to flow soon and we might see heavy trading! Big risk still but the upside looks massive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
javidshaik
- 15 Apr 2004 15:27
- 50 of 104
9 million shares sold and none bought by 3.30pm today. hence the price drop.
skyhigh
- 15 Apr 2004 16:36
- 51 of 104
There was a small article in Shares Mag. this morning that wasn't very encouraging.... It was headed up under BBB and stated that financial product sales were not as strong as hoped for..
It also said that the proposed merger was not likely to go ahead and then also rated both shares as sells !
Apart from that - everything's fine !!!!!
Looks as though Inter's recovery plans are going to be put back and that any results will be disappointing..
Well, I'm wondering whether to finally sell up or not. I might regret this but... on my premise that it's always darkest just bfore the dawn, I'll hold on and hope for the best !...
Sometimes, when mergers don't materialise, it galvanises some companies to really buckle down and make a go of it themselves. I hope that it's the case with IAL !
Good luck all... keep smiling! :)
mpw777
- 16 Apr 2004 14:00
- 52 of 104
i would not touch this share. i guess the assets are so fragile....open them up and see i.e. if you are in aposion to do so which you are not.
ascertain what is regarded as income and when that is taken into the accounts.
examine the liabilities and how rigourous these have been defined.
towhat extent is the company protected by insurance and is any excess a single one for each and every individual claim arising ... in fact what is the amount of that excess? the regulator is allowing some firms to operate without insurance. as far as i am aware past and even new clients may well not be aware of the abscence of an insurance cover. an insurer can refuse to renew or apply horrendous terms which can result in prudent directers closing a company. why should life offices subscribe for shares beats me ..unless the life office is using money from its own policyholders with-profits fund which i would class as horrific.
we are in a claims conscience era coupled with the regulator still applying retrospective judgements
salesman can have lucrative financial incentives which can result in even the sharpest of eyes becoming blind ...and will that salesman be there in even a years time to listen to the music
in addition more and more products will shortly become severely regulated.
i am one of the greatist optimists ...but this share fills me with dread.
dandu71
- 21 Apr 2004 17:48
- 53 of 104
Sells outweighing the buys considerably today and a very low price. The share no longer looks all that attractive. Makes me wonder if the company is suffering more than it should be?? If so is there a risk the shares could be suspended??
thesaurus
- 21 Apr 2004 19:06
- 54 of 104
if I was you and thank god i am not in your position. I would get out sooner rather than later, unless you thinking majorly long term then nobody knows
mpw777
- 22 Apr 2004 14:25
- 55 of 104
can anyone confirm that inter-alliance is about to change its title to ....................TITANIC?
skyhigh
- 22 Apr 2004 14:40
- 56 of 104
Looks as though it's still gonna sink whatever name it is !
But.. I'm stupidly hanging on hoping for the best outcome and going for broke on this one. (I've been a long term holder). Looks as though I'm gonna sink with it ! :(
sirtoven
- 22 Apr 2004 15:14
- 57 of 104
I too held these a long time - since last Sept and only have a small portion of my original holding left.I lost quite a bit on this one but I don't think it will sink just yet.The lack of information really kills the share price.
They have'nt had to look for anymore cash since the last placing (15m)so I believe they have managed to cut costs to some extent although not as much as was hoped for.Remember H1 loss of 20m+.
BBB managed to cut their losses more significantly at their last results and may have seen an opportunity to use their experience in cost cutting in a merger with Ial.
I feel the share price could fall further before the results at the end May.So will look to some good info in the results before I buy back.The merger still makes very good business sense for both companies so I don't think that saga is over yet either.
Just my opinion
Goog luck to all
Sirtoven
skyhigh
- 23 Apr 2004 10:14
- 58 of 104
sirtoven.
Thank you for your views which I mostly agree with. Looks as though we're being softened up for a much lower price on this one as price keeps falling a little as each week goes by. If merger does go ahead, It'll be interseting to see how they fund it. Can't see how we can be anything but worse off in the short term.
Also, last week, Shares Mag. commented that the merger with BBB is unlikely to go ahead and rated both shares as sells. This after SM rated IAL as recovery play last Sept/Oct.
However, SM could have this wrong as they have been with other shares. Take Zi Med, which I've been in a long time, over a year ago they rated them as a sell at 4p.. now look where are !
Be intersting to see what eventually happens..keep smiling all, remember ..it's always darkest before the dawn ! :)
GEOFFREY.R
- 28 Apr 2004 09:52
- 59 of 104
IAL down again. Has anyone any comments ?
skyhigh
- 28 Apr 2004 10:19
- 60 of 104
Geoffrey.R,
As mentioned and expected above, lower price is here ! could even go a bit lower still. Good time to pick up more. (DYOR & IMHO)
I believe price is being driven lower to enable a big institution(Soc.Gen) to buy in at a low price. (and maybe to get the proce down to level where they will get institutional funding support for the merger, if it goes ahead).
I don't think it's all gloom & doom. All should become clearer by 20th May.
Could even be earlier to ensure they take us all by surprise.!
I'd be interested to hear other news & views also. Keep the faith !
mpw777
- 28 Apr 2004 10:21
- 61 of 104
i say again .......you must dump the shares. in this type of operation once the covers are taken off there is the absence of true assets and liabilies spread faster than the most severe cancer. you must dump the shares before sale costs exceed the share sale value.