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The more intelligent     

driver - 05 Aug 2005 22:26

This thread is for the more intelligent, any intelligent thoughts can be posted here by the more intelligent amongst us.
The thread is dedicated to bosley (bos) who only wants the more intelligent thoughts posted here.

Imagination is more important than knowledge; Einstein

driver - 07 Aug 2005 23:48 - 42 of 245

Re "positive vacuums".

superrod - 08 Aug 2005 00:15 - 43 of 245

a parting shot before bed.

every cubic centimetre of the so called vacuum of space contains a billion billion neutrinos.

chocolat - 08 Aug 2005 00:28 - 44 of 245

Beats counting sheep I s'pose.

jimmy b - 08 Aug 2005 08:51 - 45 of 245

I was going to write something here , but iv'e been reading the posts and it's far too intelligent for me, i'll have to go back to the NOWT thread..

bosley - 08 Aug 2005 09:03 - 46 of 245

jimmy, i agree. superrod spoilt it by actually saying something intelligent!!! back to nowt!

jimmy b - 08 Aug 2005 09:12 - 47 of 245



I tried to fine some pictures of INTELLIGENT PEOPLE on yahoo and this is what came up !! Maybe i am intelligent .

stockdog - 08 Aug 2005 09:21 - 48 of 245

Driver, why has you got your eyes shut? What ARE you doing with your right hand?

planttec - 08 Aug 2005 10:18 - 49 of 245

Bosley, The question has to be : How did you know he could suck his....ermm.... and Did he prove it by demonstration?
Just curious
:-)

bosley - 08 Aug 2005 10:34 - 50 of 245

plantec, he used to demonstrate his party trick in the music room, churches, classrooms, pretty much anywhere whenever someone wanted to see it.

namreh3 - 08 Aug 2005 10:34 - 51 of 245

Superrod
Re vacuums. Presumably a vacuum is only a vacuum if it is empty, devoid of matter (wave-particle duality debate aside), thus a vacuum cannot contain a billion billion neutrinos, can it?

hewittalan6 - 08 Aug 2005 10:56 - 52 of 245

This would violate the uncertainty principle by allowing us to give an exact value for both the speed (zero) and position (also zero) of the vacuum. In order to avoid violation of the principle we must allow for quantum uncertainties and therefore apply a non zero value to these values!!! It has been suggested that a vacuum is actually a seething mass of particles popping into and out of existence very rapidly, by annihalating with their opposite number. This theory has given much credence to superstring theory by suggesting these particles originate in one of the 7 extra dimensions required by string theory.
Phew, I'm glad I got that off my chest!!!
alan

driver - 08 Aug 2005 11:02 - 53 of 245

SD
It's not me its bos and jimmy after there get together.

driver - 08 Aug 2005 11:04 - 54 of 245

jimmy
You don't have to be intelligent for this thread, just say a couple of words on the BIG Bang, OK just the one then.

bosley - 08 Aug 2005 11:08 - 55 of 245

there was nothing. then there was a big bang. a couple of millenia later there was this thread. the circle is complete.

bosley - 08 Aug 2005 11:09 - 56 of 245

driver, it could well be. i am what is known as a happy drunk.

namreh3 - 08 Aug 2005 11:14 - 57 of 245

thanks alan

As Werner Heisenberg was not my favourite physicist (politics included) shall we dispense we all the delta p.delta h and E(psi) = H(psi) + nonsense crap. Eigenfunctions - smeigenfunctions. More likely to be bowel functions! String and superstring theories are more fudges dreamed up by mathematicians justifying their
grants and massaging their egos.
There, rant over

Nam

bosley - 08 Aug 2005 11:16 - 58 of 245

i like string.

namreh3 - 08 Aug 2005 11:16 - 59 of 245

ps it is the language that is the problem. We tend to use and abuse words and notations which have become accepted in daily use when we should be much more specific.

Rant over (again)

Nam

namreh3 - 08 Aug 2005 11:21 - 60 of 245

Sorry meant to say Delta P.Delta x - not h (been a long weekend!)

Nam

hewittalan6 - 08 Aug 2005 11:28 - 61 of 245

Ah. We can agree. All theories regarding the universe should be elegantly simple, in my opinion, and those which are not, may well be wrong. I believe many scientists of the modern era look for difficulties where simplicities exist and overlook the obvious because the simple and obvious does not fit with currently accepted hypothesis.
I would wipe away all physics since the general theory and start again. Too much is based on the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, and from a philosophical viewpoint, this is only correct while we are bounded by the laws of time. Step outside of time and the uncertainty disappears. I feel certain that the laws of our universe are not constricted by the fastness of time!!
Anyone for religion?
Alan
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