Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
cynic
- 03 Feb 2011 09:54
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didn't know you could trace your family back to 17th century ..... i think civil war in egypt is unlikely, unless fomented by the external backers of fundamentalism ..... however, "moderate" is also questionable ..... my bet is that the army will effectively "elect" someone to act at their behest
Fred1new
- 03 Feb 2011 10:44
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My wife can. I haven't bothered to, as I know who I am. 8-)
Unfortunately, without the obvious political leaders and "representative" groups, there will be a political vacuum and it seems probable that the many be a "temporary" military government.
Do you mean by "external backers of fundamentalism" the American Zionist lobbies who back Zionist Fundamentalism in Israel.
cynic
- 03 Feb 2011 11:28
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arsehole! ..... try islamic extremists of which there is already a sizeable caucus in egypt
In The Land of the B
- 03 Feb 2011 12:10
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cynic,
Don't let freddie few brains wind you up. His attitude and that of the parrot on his shoulder is the last refuge of the intellectually biased and mentally challenged.
They know they are anuses, but it's anything to crave attention.......
cynic
- 03 Feb 2011 12:30
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he doesn't .... suspect his comment may have been intentionally silly anyway
Fred1new
- 03 Feb 2011 13:28
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Cynic, Thank you for your thought.
I wonder what the various Israeli embassies were up to over the last 10 days.
cynic
- 03 Feb 2011 13:29
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playing golf!
yuff
- 03 Feb 2011 18:35
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If this is what the Egyptians do to each other, what chance would Israel have if the Arabs ever got a foorhold??
Savages and its all played out in front of the worlds media.
Fred1new
- 03 Feb 2011 18:47
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Yuff.
Are you referring to the phosphorus bombing of Gaza?
Fred1new
- 03 Feb 2011 18:53
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Perhaps, it is the friends of Hosni defending him. I believe Mubarak is said to be a good friend of the Israeli leadership.
The anti Mubarak demonstration for 3-4 days was relatively good natured until the Pro-Mubarak thugs arrived.
Haystack
- 03 Feb 2011 19:03
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The savages in Egypt seem to be the paid thugs on the President's side and the police. The pro decmocracy protestors were not being violent prior to their attack yesterday and are just defending themselves.
When the anti president protestors catch one of the thugs they are intrerrogating them and taking their IDs' and keeping them in a a makeshift jail. In Egypt you have to carry an ID.
The interesting thing is that the very same ID's that were previously used by the police to round up dissenters has been their undoing. The IDs have a section that specifies the holders profession. Of course the thugs have IDs that say POLICE and the protestors are shoing off big bundled of these!
cynic
- 03 Feb 2011 22:00
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what a grim, bleak and dispiriting programme
sniffer
- 04 Feb 2011 07:17
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I take it you are referring to Theroux.
A pox on all religions. How belief in a sky fairy can lead to such atrocities(on both sides) baffles me.
mnamreh
- 04 Feb 2011 07:26
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cynic
- 04 Feb 2011 08:07
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theroux is a very clever commentator for as much as anything, he allows the story to unfold and the people to speak for themselves with minimal interference ...... i accept that this was a microcosm based on some deeply radical zealots, but assuming you watched the programme, what parts gave you reason for hope or even common sense to prevail?
Haystack
- 05 Feb 2011 11:49
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Blast at gas terminal in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula
A suspected terrorist action blew up the filtering station close to the Israeli border. The fire plume was visible from about 50 miles away. Egypt supplies about 40% of Israel's gas via a pipeline across Sinai. The gas is also used to produce about 25% of Israel's electricity and Israel spends billions to bring natural gas from Egypt.
Egypt began providing Israel with natural gas in February 2008 under a deal by which it will sell Israel 60 billion cubic feet a year for a period of 15 years. The deal was unpopular in Egypt with many people saying that the gas was being sold at below-market rates. Other people say Egypt shouldn't supply energy to Israel at all.
The deal to sell gas was challenged in the high court by former diplomat Ibrahim Yousri. The high court ruled in his favor in February 2010 but the ruling has been ignored by the government. It is expected that any new Egyptian democratic government may cancel the contract.
Egypt has potential natural gas reserves of 62 trillion cubic feet, the 18th largest in the world. Last week, the main Egyptian shareholder in pipeline company EMG, Hussein Salem, was reported to have fled Cairo on one of 19 private jets which carried wealthy Egyptians to Dubai.
cynic
- 05 Feb 2011 15:13
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shame you don't identify the source of the article
Haystack
- 05 Feb 2011 17:27
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The article is a combination of parts from BBC, SKY, The Independant and a number of other sources.
What is interesting is that some of the sources quoted the finding of evidence of explosive devices early today. The story has now been changed to it being the result of a gas leak. Some sources are suggesting that the change of story is deliberate so as not to inflame the situation.
I saw a story about 4 days ago where Israel suggested that the pipeline was at risk of attack.
cynic
- 05 Feb 2011 17:48
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it is also being said that it's the jordan branch and that israel has only turned off its section as a precaution - nonsense! ...... extremist/external inflammatory meddling? .... more than possible
Fred1new
- 05 Feb 2011 19:34
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Or, perhaps, "an act of a god".
Take your pick.