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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 09 Jun 2014 16:46 - 42124 of 81564

This afternoon

Populus’s twice-weekly online poll – that had topline figures of CON 35%, LAB 36%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 14%

cynic - 09 Jun 2014 19:46 - 42125 of 81564

so you guys bitch about carney and no doubt you bitched about meryn king and ben bernanke, though perhaps you have yet to get your claws out for janet yellen
all pretty pathetic and predictable really, though no doubt you thought gordy brown did a fantastic job

cynic - 09 Jun 2014 19:58 - 42126 of 81564

religious schools
if a school is private and privately funded, then provided the ethos is not subversive, then i don't think there can or should be any objection
however, where it is taxpayer funded, i don't think ANY school should have a clear specific religion bias and that includes anglican or catholic as well

Haystack - 09 Jun 2014 20:10 - 42127 of 81564

All religious schools are taxpayer funded. They are funded by virtue of having charitable status whereas they should be regarded as businesses. I don't want my taxes to be spent on the propagation of fairy stories,

cynic - 09 Jun 2014 20:13 - 42128 of 81564

not true ..... for starters, and like it or not, i think you'll find most if not all public schools are registered as charities .... that being so, and you can't just manipulate the rules to suit your own beliefs, then they have to conform to some pretty stringent rules

Haystack - 09 Jun 2014 20:18 - 42129 of 81564

The difference is that most faith based schools are exclusive to pupils of that faith. That prohibition alone should merit charitable status being removed.

MaxK - 09 Jun 2014 21:02 - 42130 of 81564

Again, not true, most faith based schools take other beliefs.

Haystack - 09 Jun 2014 21:28 - 42131 of 81564

Only in theory. The school that I went to was a Catholic Jesuit grammar school and is now a compresenhive. A number of years ago, I tried to get one of my children in there. I was told that I needed a letter from my priest, a certificate of baptism and first communion. I said that in my day there were non Catholics at the school. I was told that now only applies if they do not have enough Catholics applying, which is never the case.

Stan - 09 Jun 2014 21:31 - 42132 of 81564

You went to a Catholic school did you H/S? no wonder you can't stand religion.

MaxK - 09 Jun 2014 21:34 - 42133 of 81564

I went to a catholic school too, and whilst I don't subscribe, I see nothing wrong with it.

Indeed most catholic schools are over subscribed to hell and gone.

Stan - 09 Jun 2014 21:43 - 42134 of 81564

Not like the one I went to then Max, mine was more like indoctrination rather then education. Needless to say I rejected it when I could.

Haystack - 09 Jun 2014 21:48 - 42135 of 81564

I see nothing wrong with faith schools, but I don't want any public money support. You want religious education, then pay the full cost and no subsidy, support and no charitable status.

cynic - 09 Jun 2014 22:06 - 42136 of 81564

which bit don't you read let alone understand of 42130?

Haystack - 09 Jun 2014 23:11 - 42137 of 81564

I am not sure if I like public and other private schools being charities or not, but I definitely don't want it to apply to religion which I regard as harmful. It is about the intention. The intention of one is to provide excellent education. The other is to further the purposes and indoctrination of a religion. And I see no reason not to be able to put ck and choose who gets charitable status. The charity commission could have new rules that say no religious charities at all, including churches etc.

cynic - 10 Jun 2014 09:32 - 42138 of 81564

hays - in your own way, you are every bit as "fundamentalist" and intolerant as the religions you so decry and deplore ..... what you fail to grasp is that most religions set out little more than philosophies for life, propounding sensible and basic guidelines on how we should lead our lives ..... what's so wrong about that?

that most attach those guidelines to a higher being is almost irrelevant

i accept that the above is a very simplistic statement, but it's good enough

MaxK - 10 Jun 2014 09:48 - 42139 of 81564

MaxK - 10 Jun 2014 09:59 - 42140 of 81564

Sepp Blatter hits out at 'racist' British media and plot to destroy Fifa

Governing body's president claims press is working to an agenda as he declares plan to run for fifth term




Power broker: Sepp Blatter looks unbeatable in the next vote for the presidency Photo: AFP



By Ben Rumsby, Rio de Janeiro

7:26PM BST 09 Jun 2014



Sepp Blatter unleashed an astonishing tirade against the “racist” British media and what he branded a plot to “destroy” Fifa last night as he confirmed his intention to stand for a controversial fifth term as president.


Blatter lashed out against the critics of football’s world governing body in two defiant speeches, finally breaking his silence over the corruption crisis to engulf the organisation he leads ahead of the World Cup in Brazil.


Fifa has been under mounting pressure over the emergence of new evidence linked to its decision to award the 2022 tournament to Qatar, with sponsors lining up to express their concerns.


But Blatter dismissed the investigations spearheaded by The Telegraph and Sunday Times in an address to the African Football Confederation’s annual congress, in which he railed against the “storm against Fifa relating to the Qatar World Cup”.


He added: “Sadly, there’s a great deal of discrimination and racism, and this hurts me.”


More racist bollox here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10887846/Sepp-Blatter-hits-out-at-racist-British-media-and-plot-to-destroy-Fifa.html

Fred1new - 10 Jun 2014 10:03 - 42141 of 81564

cynic - 10 Jun 2014 10:03 - 42142 of 81564

that sepp blatter is an absolute disgrace and in his own way probably an even nastier piece of work than bernie ecclestone

Fred1new - 10 Jun 2014 10:04 - 42143 of 81564

Which is the next con party leader?
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