Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

It is not about their religious bent. It is that they have any religious bent. I would like schools to only teach on the basis of fact and not superstition, fantasy, unsubstantiated beliefs, dogma, silly religious rules, attempts to make people feel guilty and lots more.

Why not have a school that has special lessons about fairies and that the earth is flat. You could then apply to be grant maintained or get charitable status. There is NO difference between this and a Catholic, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, CoE, Mormon or Scientology school.

hays - that last post of yours displays an appalling degree of intolerance

No it doesnt. Hes right.

but i should certainly have added that children also need to be taught to THINK and QUESTION
it is brainwashing with dogma that is surely the antithesis of the above

as i'm a very tolerant chap, i would be the last one to insist that you cannot have your own views!

It is not intolerant. I just don't want my taxes spent on religion in any shape or form. I don't want tax breaks for schools or churches that n any way including being a charity. Apart from anything they are clearly not a charity. I want schools to be secular. Even in the US state schools are completely secular as are all public bodies.

Religion has no place in any official capacity in our society. People should always be free to celebrate their religions but only in a non official manner and not funded by the state.

"as i'm a very tolerant chap, i would be the last one to insist that you cannot have your own views!"

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.. Oh gawd I'll print that one out and frame it and when I need a good laugh....What a cracker it's the way he tells em.

Religion needs to be kept out of schools or radicals will use it as a training ground.

I say dont give them the chance or they will snap your hand off.

And for a few bob extra they will snap your leg off.

USE your nogging Cynic.

MP’s Scrounging Is Out Of Control: Cap Esther McVey’s Housing Benefit
Posted on June 10, 2014 by johnny void

Generation-rentMPs are being handed huge subsidies to rent second homes in London whilst thousands of the capital’s poorest residents are being socially cleansed due to slashed benefits and soaring rents.

Unemployment Minister Esther McVey claimed a whopping £17,227 last year to rent a swanky central London pad whilst invisible Housing Minster Kris Hopkins trousered £18,045.

The total bill for MPs languishing in luxury properties at our expense came to over £5 million says pressure group Generation Rent who compiled the figures.

The maximum Housing Benefit available in London is just over £250 a week for a single person, around £100 a week less than McVey scrounges. This benefit goes to people in and out of work alike and was capped shortly after the current government weren’t elected. Soaring rents in London have meant that many new housing benefit claimants are working full time but still cannot afford the eye-watering cost of living in the capital.

Previously ministers, including Iain Duncan Smith, have claimed that there are plenty of properties still available in London to those affected by the cap. So why can’t McVey live in one of those instead of living on hand outs?

McVey earns far too much already to be eligible for housing benefit and in any case it is not payable for second homes, even if you claim you need them for work. She can easily afford to pay her own rent and if not then any state support she receives should be capped at the same level she expects everyone else to survive on. It’s about making the system fair after all, and it might even incentivise McVey to get a real job for once in her miserable life.

Above graph taken from an infographic produced by Generation Rent, for the full image visit their website

hays - why should not religious bodies be deemed as charities, obviously with the proviso that they adhere by the rules for being same?

it happens that i don't subscribe to Christian Aid, but i'm sure that body does much good work and is assuredly a charity as of course is the Salvation Army

Hazyone seems to have the intolerance of a the "converted", a zealot who believes he has seen the light and the folly of their ways and wishes to convert others to his faith.

(Very questionable.)

For me, his belief in a "new god" has the strength of an "anti-belief", of similar strength to those who believed in the "anti-christ", the "golden calve", a "graven image". The latter belief iconic of his "mammon".

To me, he demonstrated the need to justify his own belief, his "conception" of his "true" religion.

( I wonder if he may be worshiping the Anti-Christ.)

Unfortunately, he may have converted GF to his his belief.

Manuel, be careful, or Hazyone may cast a spell on you.

Or, has has already done so?

It may account for your ramblings!

8-)

GF.

Posting

"MP’s Scrounging Is Out Of Control: Cap Esther McVey’s Housing Benefit"

Shows the typical hypocrisy of the present tory leadership and their worshipers, or wannabees!

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at least i don't just c+p :-)

Manuel,

Only because you don't know how to!

Only if they are charities. Not by virtue of being a church as now. And only those aspects that are related to charity and certainly not the fabric of the mosque, church, temple, synagogue etc and the running of the religion. All donations to be treated as income and taxed. Separate out the charity and the religion. Donations being specific to charity or religion and no cross usage.

Whats wrong with the old small Primary school and the Secondary school + Grammar where all the kids in the village went come hell or high water!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Sure you had the odd kid going to a private college where his parents thought they were stealing a march on eveyone else but these were very few and far between.

The asian kids sat outside assembly and were excused from Religous studies.

Whats happened to that World and what was wrong with it.

Ill tell you NOTHING in fact I blame do gooders within the council for all this religious tollerance and financial bidding etc etc. 'Local Government of Schools' as been a disaster and as been manipulated in a way in which no one ever saw developing.

Schools now been run by political and religious fruit cakes.

Time to get back to basics and let BRAINS rule once more.

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One in 11 Britons has less than £10 a month disposable income

One in 11 people, or 4.5 million British adults, have less than £10 a month left over once they have paid their essential bills, new research from thinkmoney has found.

With many households struggling to make ends meet, the findings from budgeting account provider thinkmoney reveal the worryingly small amounts of disposable income people have left once they've met all their financial commitments.

Of the 2,149 people polled, one in four said they had less than £50 a month to spend after bills.

Across the UK, the average monthly disposable income was £224.50. However, there was a wide gender difference with men reporting having disposable incomes averaging £272.50, almost twice as much as women (£190.20).

Young people reported having the least disposable income, with 18-24 year-olds averaging £174.20 – some 22% below the overall UK average. Almost one in three people in this age group have less than £50 a month to spend after bills.

By contrast, the wealthiest in terms of post-bills spending money are people over 65, with an average of £269.50 a month available to spend.

The amount of disposable income also varies depending on where people live. It is highest in London, at an average of £261, and the South East, at £244. People in the North East and Wales have the lowest disposable incomes, at £199 and £181 respectively.

Worryingly, one in six people questioned in Wales said they had less than £10 a month to spend after bills.

“It’s stressful not knowing if you will have enough money to pay the bills and afford added extras each month,” said Ian Williams, director of communications at thinkmoney.

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