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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 13 Jun 2014 10:08 - 42392 of 81564

Cyners not up to carney, its up to the BoE board, who vote on it.

The signs are hes softening people up ready for an increase (small increases) very soon and hoping its already in the market.

As for my E-mail I was invaded with spam a couple of weeks back from here on a weekend and im not prepard to take the chance with this virus thats going to attack all of us.

IM SUPRISED YOU DIDNT GET THE SAME CRAP MOST OTHERS DID.

cynic - 13 Jun 2014 10:16 - 42393 of 81564

almost never look at that account, but i don't think i did

goldfinger - 13 Jun 2014 10:21 - 42394 of 81564

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goldfinger - 13 Jun 2014 10:33 - 42396 of 81564

Passport to oblivion →
Is self employment the panacea for all our ills?

Posted on June 13, 2014 by thelovelywibblywobblyoldlady

The ConDem Coalition claims that “more people are in work than ever before” have been undermined by a report that shows the number of traditional employee jobs is falling or flatlining across the country – a phenomenon masked by an explosion in recorded self-employment which one economist describes as “the last refuge of the desperate”.

Only London has shown a marked rise in employee jobs in the last six years, according to new analysis by the independent thinktank the Resolution Foundation, seen exclusively by the Guardian.

Gavin Kelly, chief executive of the Resolution Foundation, said: “The defining feature of the post-crisis jobs market has been the strong performance of employment alongside an unprecedented fall in wages. But underneath the headline job figures over this period we saw a staggering increase in self-employment that cloaked far weaker performance for employees. Looking back over the whole downturn we see that in most regions the rise in people working for themselves ran alongside a fall in employees.”

A particular concentration of older part-timers among the self-employed is one sign that sole trader status could now be masking semi-employment for some parts of the workforce.

The labour market economist and former Bank of England rate-setter David Blanchflower, who has studied trends in self-employment for many years, said: “Particularly after a prolonged downturn, there is a well-documented pattern of people failing as jobseekers and then moving into self-employment status, often out of desperation rather than anything more positive.”

“Self-employment is often a last resort of the desperate,” Blanchflower said. He added: “Such workers operate under considerable strain, worried about where their income is coming from, and are sometimes forced to finance themselves by borrowing against their home, exposing their families to the same financial uncertainty that attaches to their job.”

Gillian Guy, chief executive of Citizens Advice, added: “Many people working for themselves are seeing their efforts unravelled by debt.”

Hopes that burgeoning self-employment represents a genuine wave of entrepreneurialism are undermined by a second piece of work by the Resolution Foundation, also published on Tuesday. It finds that while weekly wages for employees have fallen 6% since 2007, typical self-employed pay has tumbled by 20% in the same time. This leaves the typical self-employed person now being paid 40% less than the average employee.

A government spokesman said: “Self-employment plays an important role in the UK’s flexible labour market and as this report shows, the vast majority of those self-employed prefer to work for themselves.”

Blanchflower counters that “less developed economies like Mexico, Chile and Greece often have more self-employment, while more developed and ‘entrepreneurial’ economies have less. The UK now has roughly twice as much self-employment as the US.”Professor Stephen Machin of University College London – a leading expert on labour markets – said: “The changing composition of jobs, and in particular the rise in low-wage self-employment, is an important and worrying recent development that underpins some of the discussions about the number of jobs hitting record levels. This is especially true in some parts of the country where this compositional change is masking what is happening in terms of jobs growth.”

The shadow work and pensions secretary, Rachel Reeves, said: “This report shows how the cost-of-living crisis is making life harder for millions of self-employed people who have seen their earnings fall dramatically. It’s increasingly clear that David Cameron’s government has failed to tackle low pay and insecure work. A Labour government will raise the minimum wage, get more employers to pay the living wage and look carefully at how universal credit supports the self-employed.”

A Treasury spokesman said: “The government’s long-term economic plan is working; the economy is growing, the deficit is falling, and more people are in work than ever before. But the job is not yet done, and the biggest risk to the recovery would be abandoning the plan that is delivering economic security for hardworking people.”

As someone who deals with taxation of all types of income on an almost daily basis, I say this … claimaints (of varying abilities when it comes to record keeping) are being pushed into self employment by this government in order to massage the employment/unemployment figures. Self employment status is riddled with pitfalls and even self employed workers represented by a decent accountant can fall foul. Let me put it this way; HMRC had to change simplified assessing to self assessment, because it wasn’t … simple that is!

Here’s a link from HMRC website, which shows the responsibilities and obligations for self employment.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/working/intro/selfemployed.htm

…and woe betide you if you get it wrong by missing a filing or payment date because the new penalties regime (introduced by the Finance Act … thanks to George Osborne for that!) is Draconion to say the least.

Oh yes, don’t let me forget about National Insurance; there are implications for future State Pension. If your income is below the Small Earnings Exemption limit (SEE) you do not have to pay Class 2 National Insurance. This means that you will have insufficient contributions to qualify you for state pension, although you can make voluntary contributions of Class 3 National Insurance. In reality, how many people will voluntarily make contributions if they are already living hand to mouth.

There are implications for Tax Credits too. Mike Sivier over at Vox Political as well as other bloggers have covered this point in some detail.

http://mikesivier.wordpress.com/2014/05/31/tax-credit-debt-collection-is-a-double-edged-attack-on-the-poor/

If you work from home as a self employed person, which most people will, then your buildings and contents insurance policy will require revision (with the resuting increase in premiums of course). If you don’t tell the insurer about the change of status to your home (use of home as an office) you will be classed as failing to disclose a material fact and the insurance company may then not pay out.

So there you have it. This government know all this of course, but it appears that they don’t give a flying f**k. All they are interested in s spinning the employment figures so that Carney over at the Bank of England can put the interest rates up, because friends of the tories (including tory donors) have been bumping their gums about what little returns they are getting on their investments and of course tories rub shoulders on a daily basis with those sort of people don’t they (rather than the likes of me and you) so those are the people that they listen to.

Fred1new - 13 Jun 2014 10:35 - 42397 of 81564

Shortie,

I have to admit to think a closer union of Europe will be beneficial to those included and lead to a more effective economic stabilising and foreign effect benefits of those included.

Are re-negotiations and reforms necessary? I would think so. But that is so of any large organisation in the process of their evolution or developement.

But many of the rules and regulations, which people are getting steamed up about, originate in the policies developed in the UK.

What irritates me about Cameron and the coalition is their short term views and policies of "grab" it, rather than looking into the future in an attempt to see that the stronger Europe is, the stronger and healthier the UK will be and make international negotiations easier. UK is a little country, some have never heard of it.

Cameron, or any other leader has to be able to influence policies in Europe not be seen as irritation for Europe.

Cameron should be reminded that it is not a school boy debate and many in Europe are irritated by the personalisation of politics which seems to be characteristic of UK politics.

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(Ps.

I am aware my postings on some politicians are personal. I put that down to an attempt to obtain a proper balance. )

8-)

Fred1new - 13 Jun 2014 10:44 - 42398 of 81564

Does Ian look at this thread?


If so, how did we get the invasion of "spam" e-mails?

The Mail provider I use, warned me and "purged", but interested to know who was up to what!

Shortie - 13 Jun 2014 11:06 - 42399 of 81564

Fred whilst being in Europe on the grounds of trade and having a single market were very attractive the EU has now become an un-elected government in its own right dictating to member states. I feel the EU needs to have its wings clipped, it should be a system to centralise trade and should stay out of member states internal policies. The EU and the power within it currently reminds me of George Orwells Animal Farm quote "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others". I voted for a democracy something the EU seams to be losing.

goldfinger - 13 Jun 2014 11:14 - 42400 of 81564

God knows Fred, the worst thing you could do is to open one of them spam e-mails, if you did so perhaphs thats what your problem is with your PC?.

I just bin them and then empty them out.

cynic - 13 Jun 2014 11:32 - 42401 of 81564

MAM spam
i have none other than the usual .... clearly not even the hackers want to talk to me :-(

hilary - 13 Jun 2014 11:36 - 42402 of 81564

Fred and Fishfinger,

If you're getting spam emails through the £am messaging system, it's possible that it's being done automagically by a robot. It would be very easy to build a bot which does that as there's no captcha verification required to send a message (and even if there were, it's still possible to hack the captcha).

It's probably best to visit your settings and disable the receiving of personal messages until £am implement a fix. I think Fishfinger has probably already done that as there's no email icon next to his name.

Fred1new - 13 Jun 2014 11:37 - 42403 of 81564

GF.

My computer is clean at the moment. (Crossed fingers.)

I think the problem was due to me using my mobile as a modem when in France and a few occasions since being home. My internet defaulting to it (BT) rather than my usual default Talktalk.

Also, had minor conflict with Adblocker.

I use Avira as virus blocker and touch wood for 10 years have been protected successfully!

Fred1new - 13 Jun 2014 11:37 - 42404 of 81564

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ExecLine - 13 Jun 2014 11:56 - 42405 of 81564

Is this a Ministry of Justice 'don't and won't admit to it' cock-up?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-27828845

goldfinger - 13 Jun 2014 11:58 - 42406 of 81564

Think Hilary is right for once. Cheers.

Fred1new - 13 Jun 2014 11:58 - 42407 of 81564

Exec.

Don't be silly!

It is Teressa's new open door policy!

Fred1new - 13 Jun 2014 11:59 - 42408 of 81564

GF.

Yes.

But problem seems to have gone away.

goldfinger - 13 Jun 2014 12:02 - 42409 of 81564

I know others here were targeted on the saturday, two weeks ago i think it was.

I had about 5 messages and it looked the same for others.

Just binned them and like Hilary says turned of my DM.

Havent a clue what they were about.

goldfinger - 13 Jun 2014 12:04 - 42410 of 81564

Fact of life cyners some people just get lucky unlike yourself and are ignored LOL LOL LOL.......wink..... kidding.

Think the spammer just targetted them on the opening page.

cynic - 13 Jun 2014 12:05 - 42411 of 81564

i'm really hurt :-((
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