Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY ARE INNOCENT!

I AM NOT SURE WHETHER THEY ARE GUILTY!

They may need to be made to face their accusers in a court of law. I do agree.

Lots of people, including me and my family, the MP Andrea Leadsom, and many more people too, all seem to feel that the extradition of the Dunhams in this manner is unjust and unfair. Your resistance to comment on just the manner and terms of their extradition seems to indicate very clearly that you agree with HOW they were extradited.

It disgusts me that you feel that just because they have been extradited, that there is no smoke without fire, and so that proves to you that they must be guilty!

Don't you feel, that to others, such logic is possibly pathetic?

dunhams extradited on charges of massive fraud
i really haven't followed this case at all and have no intention of doing so now

however, surely the correct question to ask is whether or not an american couple on similar charges, for which there would seem to be at least substantive prima facie evidence, would have been extradited from usa to uk on similar charges

if the answer is affirmative, then so well and good, and there would not seem to be a decent argument against

There is little chance of that happening, the US does not export people at others countries request without one hell of a fandango.

that wasn't the question
there's a mutual extradition treaty between usa and uk, though i believe there are certain areas that are flawed - i.e. not the same in both directions
however, unless this is one of the "inequalities", my previous comment remains valid

Exec,

On a lighter note:

If that is correct, and you point blank refuse to discuss your points further, then I will surely filter you. Pity really, I do like your right wing postings and you would be losing an ally.

Sounds as if the Con party has another split at a lower level than others.

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The extradition rules, or rather their implementations seem to balanced unevenly between the US and UK.

But I believe the court has reviewed the evidence in the describe case and think they have a case to answer.

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I don't think I would like to be subjected to USA law unless I had very deep pockets.

Oh dear' who thought this one up? :O)



By Simon Johnson

4:59PM BST 15 Jun 2014

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Pensioners should fit bells to their cats, look where they are going and regularly polish their spectacles, according to a “patronising” handbook published by Scotland’s NHS aimed at helping them avoid falls.


The 48-page guide, titled Up and About, also recommends OAPs throw away their old slippers, avoid alcohol, stand up straight while walking and slow down for corners.


NHS Health Scotland has spent more than £14,000 printing 40,000 copies of the booklet, which will be distributed across the country.


It aims to provide practical advice to “avoid trips and falls” and has the support of some elderly people’s charities, who said it was important the guide was “practical”.


But Paul Green, Saga’s director of communications, said: "There is sometimes a fine line between sensible advice, reminders and the patronising and bloody obvious.


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"Reminding people to put their glasses on if they can't see properly falls, or should that be trips, headlong into the second category. Just because someone is elderly, it doesn't mean their common sense has abandoned them.”

Eddie MacDonald, of the Scottish Pensioners' Forum, said: "We consider much of the terminology and language used in this publication to be patronising and demeaning to their intellect."

Among the guide’s recommendations for not falling over is: “Remember to clean your glasses regularly, and to put them on if you get up in the night.”

Another is: “Pets can get under your feet, so be aware of where they are when moving around them. Try putting a bell on your pet's collar so you know where they are."

It also urges readers to replace their slippers often because they can become loose after they stretch or wear comfortable shoes with a fastening.

The leaflet even provides guidance on how to walk, stating that OAPs should try to ensure their steps are of the same length, they lift their feet, stand tall, look straight ahead and let their arms swing “naturally” at their sides.

"When you need to look down, do this with your eyes, not your head. Taking slightly shorter steps will help when you're turning corners,” it advises.

The guide also recommends not sitting down for more than two hours at a time and being aware of “trip hazards” such as loose rugs, trailing cables and poor lighting.

A spokesman for NHS Health Scotland said the document was developed in consultation with elderly people and those who care for them.

“It reflects their concerns and has been written using the language and tone they use to describe their own experiences,” he said.

"A third of older people experience a fall at least once a year. Many of them suffer serious consequences as a result of falling, either through injury or a loss of confidence.”

A spokeswoman for AgeScotland, a charity involved in drawing up the guide, said it had consulted older people to ensure the “finished product” was practical and user friendly.

It might have done a better job informing the oldsters how they can find the money to heat their homes properly in the winter.

I think its a good guide.

My elderly mum would like a copy of this although its just commomn sense, Ill print her one out.

Dont forget the older you get the more you forget.

Simple things are forgotten and its a good thing surely to have something like this stuck on a daily notice board on the wall or say the fridge.

You'd forget to look at it...

You speak for yourself -):

And if I were her gf I'd kick you in the Bolxxxks!

Don't feed the trolls.

42545 - except you can't read it anyway as your sight's too weak :-)

good to read and hear loads and loads of journos ripping into blair for his arrogant interfering
what a disgusting slimeball of a man he is, though his bank managers, both home and abroad love him dearly

Tory Blair what a yob o.. and a rare agreement on this thread to boot.

i don't think anyone has anything polite to say about him, not least because his sole mission in life now is to paint himself wearing a halo instead of horns, all while stuffing his wallet to bursting

Gotta love Boris even if he resembles a complete buffoon most of the time..

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/tony-blair-is-mad-to-deny-iraq-was-a-tragic-error-20140616-zs97h.html