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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2014 09:31 - 42773 of 81564

Or the following.

But remember the tories couldn't even shoot to cull "badgers" even when they own the press.

ExecLine - 24 Jun 2014 10:19 - 42774 of 81564

Why Nigel Farage and UKIP are going to win a hell of a lot more votes than you might now think:

New EU laws ruining Britain

Stan - 24 Jun 2014 10:23 - 42775 of 81564

Oh for pete's sake E/L .. thats from the Express -):

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2014 10:35 - 42776 of 81564

The world press and some Governments are condemning the Egyptians courts and legal system for the “treatment” of their journalists who “exposed” the actions of the administration.

Rightly so, I think.

Whether the condemnation will be gainful is debatable.

But, Julian Paul Assange are Edward Snowden are also responsible for “exposures of state or government” illegal actions and abuses of laws of various states, but are under the threat from USA and UK “legal” systems and there is no government condemnation.

This strikes me as double standards.

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2014 10:49 - 42777 of 81564

Exec,


This coalition government has done more harm to this country than the EU legislation!

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The reasons for import licencing of timber is to try and limit "movement" of disease which denudes forestry.

The ferret rules may be in the same genre of reasoning, or "animal care".

If the rules or regulations are irrelevant or no longer necessary, change the rules within the regulation body by being active members.

But, first concentrate change some of the cross boundary Tax Dodging rules and regulations.

Also, tighten up on the expenses of MPs, MEPs and "administrations costs" of UK and EU and palming out of contracts.

goldfinger - 24 Jun 2014 11:11 - 42778 of 81564

The single most devastating reason NOT to vote Tory or Lib Dem at the next election

23
Monday
Jun 2014
Posted by Tom Pride in hopeless naivety

The NHS has been severely damaged by the coalition government over the last 4 years.

But don’t just take my word for that.

Dr Mark Porter, the head of the BMA, thinks so too. That’s not just some lefty anti-government think-tank – that’s the British Medical Association, which represents 153,000 doctors, GPs and other medical specialists and staff across the country.

Dr Porter gave a devastating speech today to the BMA Annual Representatives Meeting in which he astonishingly said the coalition government must “face up to the damage that they have done” to the NHS.

In his dramatic speech, Dr Porter specifically listed the ways that the NHS has been damaged over the last 4 years by the Tories and the Liberal Democrats:

The coalition government have imposed policies that “force us to do the absolute opposite of what our patients need”.
The coalition government have made cuts to frontline services in the NHS that “eat away at the fabric of care and destroy innovation”.
The coalition government have “imposed in England a new NHS without evidence, without mandate and without support”.
The coalition government have spent “at least £1.6 billion” implementing their top-down reforms to the NHS which continue to “consume the energies of thousands of NHS staff who never even wanted it, just to stop it unravelling”.
Since the coalition government passed their NHS reforms, there has been “a bumper year for the multinationals”- especially for their “armies of lawyers and accountants who find the curative so lucrative”.
The coalition government - through their “misguided legislation” – have been “doing the exact opposite” of “working to make it better for patients”.
NHS commissioning managers “are being driven to distraction by the madness of the market”.
The coalition government’s agenda on the NHS is “to override any investment, suppress any incentive, erode any service, in the single interest of bleeding every penny it can out of the system”.
The coalition government have spent billions on “fragmenting care by forcing the NHS to open up to private bidders” and on “droves of management consultants with their pointless flipcharts”.
The coalition government have wasted money on “untested policies, not hard-working public servants”.
There has been a chronic lack of investment in “emergency medicine, in general practice, in public health, in mental health, across the NHS”.
The coalition government’s “blanket refusal to invest” is “economic illiteracy”.
There have been “four years of waste and cuts and missed opportunities”.
And finally this gem:

The only single cause for celebration about the coalition government’s reforms of the NHS is “that most of it doesn’t apply in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland”.
So there you have it – straight from the horse’s mouth.

The Tories and the Lib Dems have done their best to destroy the NHS in England over the last 4 years.

So if you know anyone who still needs a reason not to vote for either of the coalition parties at the next election?

Tell them to take their pick from any of the above.

.

You can see the full transcript of Dr Porter’s speech here:

BMA Chair of Council Dr Mark Porter’s Speech

Haystack - 24 Jun 2014 11:18 - 42779 of 81564

The BMA is effectively the doctors' trade union. They hate change and rarely have anything sensible to say.

Stan - 24 Jun 2014 11:29 - 42780 of 81564

Bit like you then.

goldfinger - 24 Jun 2014 11:31 - 42781 of 81564

Rubbish they are a PRO body just like any other pros eg, solicitors, accountants, lawyers, Freemasons etc etc.

HEY HAYS your getting a right clobbering on advn on the Broker Man Daniel thread.

Your name is mud according to loverat the so called advfn self proclaimed lawyer.

Haystack - 24 Jun 2014 12:02 - 42782 of 81564

The BMA is a self interest group and has always resisted change.

ExecLine - 24 Jun 2014 12:02 - 42783 of 81564

...which reminds me. I must do my monthly Prescription Request.

On another note...wifey tells me someone has been to Paul and Sandra Dunham's house and emptied out a lot of stuff. eg. from the Freezer in the Garage, etc, etc, etc.

(You might remember how they were forcibly extradited back to the USA a few weeks ago)

Anyhow, this 'waste' is now stashed in about 6 black bin bags at the entrance to their drive.

Whoever did it, doesn't know that the council bin men will never ever collect it if it isn't put inside the black wheelie bin. These guys don't give a shit about whether the householder has been extradited or not.

A bin is a bin.

Thou shalt not overfill thy bin.
Thou shalt put the bin lid down properly.
Neither shalt thou leave extra trash at the side of the bin in one or more bags.
The Lord thy Council God is an obtuse God and has decreed that spare trash will not ever get collected.
Amen.

Edit: All as in the EU rules for the wheelie bin recycling of stuff.

Haystack - 24 Jun 2014 12:11 - 42784 of 81564

Rebekah Brooks and husband cleared of ALL charges!

Stan - 24 Jun 2014 12:18 - 42785 of 81564

"The BMA is a self interest group and has always resisted change."

No different to your "Con" Party then H/S.

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2014 12:20 - 42786 of 81564

I now believe Jesus walked on water!

Haystack - 24 Jun 2014 12:21 - 42787 of 81564

Head of security at News of the World also not guilty.

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2014 12:34 - 42788 of 81564

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Fred1new - 24 Jun 2014 12:37 - 42789 of 81564

I wonder what Andy's "Kiss and Tell" autobiography will reveal about Cameron and cronies!

I must note the name of the Legal team for future reference!

goldfinger - 24 Jun 2014 13:02 - 42790 of 81564

Yep the truth will come out in a book as usual and not in court.

MaxK - 24 Jun 2014 13:05 - 42791 of 81564


Britain is scorned and insulted across the EU. Why do we stay?


By Daniel Hannan Politics Last updated: June 24th, 2014

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100277381/britain-is-scorned-and-insulted-across-the-eu-why-do-we-stay/




Graceless and solipsistic? A Buller man?

Could a mainstream British Conservative become President of the European Commission? Or President of the European Council? You only need to put the question.

Britain is excluded from a leadership role in the EU, not because Continentals have some irrational prejudice against cricket or Elgar, but because of a fundamental incompatibility of outlook. We are interested in free markets and co-operation with our neighbours; the others are interested in merger.

This is true even of the supposedly reformist governments. Regular readers of this blog won't be surprised by the foul-mouthed tirade of Poland's foreign minister, Radosław Sikorski: the man is as charmless as he is vain and self-absorbed. What is interesting is the matter-of-fact way in which the other Polish ministers join him in vilifying the British Government.

Is this because of some long-standing enmity between the two states? Hardly. Poland is an old friend, the only country to have fought alongside us from the beginning of the Second World War to the end. Huge numbers of Poles have chosen to work here, following in the footsteps of the Polish migrants who, in 1940, fought for freedom in the Battle of Britain and, later, in North Africa, Italy, France and the Netherlands, even as their own homeland was overrun.

So why is our government spurned and traduced by ministers in Warsaw? For the same reason that we are disliked across Europe's palaces and chanceries, namely our resistance to European integration. The EU was supposed to make countries get on better; but, in reality, it's the cause of almost all our quarrels with our neighbours these days, especially those with the Germans. If it weren't for Brussels, we'd be getting along famously.

Whenever I argue that Britain should secure some sort of country-club status, an EFTA-plus deal based on open markets rather than political amalgamation, I get the same answer from worldly Sir Humphrey types. "We need to have influence. We need to have a seat at the top table". Chaps, how much clearer can it be that we have no such influence? It's not a recent thing: the Sikorski tapes recall the Spanish minister who was unwittingly recorded describing Tony Blair as "a total wanker" ("un gillipollas integral").

We can see, in the row over the Commission Presidency, how pettily we weigh in the counsels of the EU. We should rejoin the wider world, where we still have friends. We should replace the rancour and quarrelling that comes from EU membership with the mutual satisfaction that comes from free trade. We should be a good neighbour to the EU, not a bad tenant.

Why do we subject ourselves to rule from people who despise us?

hilary - 24 Jun 2014 13:21 - 42792 of 81564

Does the UK not have an equivalent to the US's Son of Sam Law which prevents criminals from profiting from their crimes? If it does, then Coulson presumably wouldn't be able to write anything.
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