superrod
- 08 Aug 2005 00:15
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a parting shot before bed.
every cubic centimetre of the so called vacuum of space contains a billion billion neutrinos.
chocolat
- 08 Aug 2005 00:28
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Beats counting sheep I s'pose.
jimmy b
- 08 Aug 2005 08:51
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I was going to write something here , but iv'e been reading the posts and it's far too intelligent for me, i'll have to go back to the NOWT thread..
bosley
- 08 Aug 2005 09:03
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jimmy, i agree. superrod spoilt it by actually saying something intelligent!!! back to nowt!
stockdog
- 08 Aug 2005 09:21
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Driver, why has you got your eyes shut? What ARE you doing with your right hand?
planttec
- 08 Aug 2005 10:18
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Bosley, The question has to be : How did you know he could suck his....ermm.... and Did he prove it by demonstration?
Just curious
:-)
bosley
- 08 Aug 2005 10:34
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plantec, he used to demonstrate his party trick in the music room, churches, classrooms, pretty much anywhere whenever someone wanted to see it.
namreh3
- 08 Aug 2005 10:34
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Superrod
Re vacuums. Presumably a vacuum is only a vacuum if it is empty, devoid of matter (wave-particle duality debate aside), thus a vacuum cannot contain a billion billion neutrinos, can it?
hewittalan6
- 08 Aug 2005 10:56
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This would violate the uncertainty principle by allowing us to give an exact value for both the speed (zero) and position (also zero) of the vacuum. In order to avoid violation of the principle we must allow for quantum uncertainties and therefore apply a non zero value to these values!!! It has been suggested that a vacuum is actually a seething mass of particles popping into and out of existence very rapidly, by annihalating with their opposite number. This theory has given much credence to superstring theory by suggesting these particles originate in one of the 7 extra dimensions required by string theory.
Phew, I'm glad I got that off my chest!!!
alan
bosley
- 08 Aug 2005 11:08
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there was nothing. then there was a big bang. a couple of millenia later there was this thread. the circle is complete.
bosley
- 08 Aug 2005 11:09
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driver, it could well be. i am what is known as a happy drunk.
namreh3
- 08 Aug 2005 11:14
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thanks alan
As Werner Heisenberg was not my favourite physicist (politics included) shall we dispense we all the delta p.delta h and E(psi) = H(psi) + nonsense crap. Eigenfunctions - smeigenfunctions. More likely to be bowel functions! String and superstring theories are more fudges dreamed up by mathematicians justifying their
grants and massaging their egos.
There, rant over
Nam
bosley
- 08 Aug 2005 11:16
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i like string.
namreh3
- 08 Aug 2005 11:16
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ps it is the language that is the problem. We tend to use and abuse words and notations which have become accepted in daily use when we should be much more specific.
Rant over (again)
Nam
namreh3
- 08 Aug 2005 11:21
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Sorry meant to say Delta P.Delta x - not h (been a long weekend!)
Nam
hewittalan6
- 08 Aug 2005 11:28
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Ah. We can agree. All theories regarding the universe should be elegantly simple, in my opinion, and those which are not, may well be wrong. I believe many scientists of the modern era look for difficulties where simplicities exist and overlook the obvious because the simple and obvious does not fit with currently accepted hypothesis.
I would wipe away all physics since the general theory and start again. Too much is based on the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, and from a philosophical viewpoint, this is only correct while we are bounded by the laws of time. Step outside of time and the uncertainty disappears. I feel certain that the laws of our universe are not constricted by the fastness of time!!
Anyone for religion?
Alan
namreh3
- 08 Aug 2005 11:30
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Now you really are talking cmplex. Too much for my puny intellect. Must go and count angels on a pin-head. Mine!
Man